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Interesting discussion about the relation between Privateer militia and the Border Worlds
Scott M. Greene
Hey. I'm a Wing Commander guy, probably not as all-knowing about the
WC-universe as you, but there is something I think you might find interesting
to know. I have noticed that you have put the Gladius and Talon as
WC-Privateer Confed. ships in your ship database. Unfortunately there are
not as Confed as they might seem. The Talon is a semi-outdated, civilian
accessible vessel flown by the pirates and the militia of Gemini. First
thing you notice is that Confed will not fly semi-outdated craft. Only the
state-of-the-art does for them. Next up is that Confed never fly's civilian
accessible craft. Next is the Gladius. It IS a confed craft ... but not in
Privateer. Why? SEMI-OUTDATED!! At least compared to the Stiletto and
Broadsword. This is too a militia craft. Now for the final chunk o' the
puzzle. We all know what the Boarder Worlds MILITIA (hint hint hint) is,
does, will do and did (protected the in-systems from terrorist attacks and
Kilrathi invasions during the Kilrathi-Terran War). What did the militia in
Privateer do? Same thing huh? So the only possible thing left to assume is
that the Gladius and Talon are Border Worlds Militia ships right? I found
this very interesting when I thought about it, and you might too. Even
though Origin may not have known it, they not only put the Boarder Worlds in
a game before WC4 so we could see what they really did, but also showed them
as being the hand-me-down technology guys they have always been. Just
thought you might like to hear this.
Scott M. Greene
We know the ships are general militia ships, it's not a huge leap to
assume what eventually became the Union of Border Worlds had them as well as
they've got everything else.
The Combat Information Center wants you! Oh wait no we don't...
I honestly can't say I'm good at anything but my ball is in your court.
If only everyone could keep their damn balls out of my court I'd be a lot happier.
I'm willing to help out the CIC in anyway I can so let me know if you ever need some pointers or help or anything because God knows we need to keep this site upo!
Yeah we really do don't we? Now that you mention it we could use any money you'd like to send on a monthly basis...since we do have to keep this site upo and all.
I'm probably best with the film and the books, both of which I'm quite familiar with (though NO ONE HAS END RUN!!!!!!! ARRRRRRRRRRRRGH!).
I have End Run...I think LOAF has End Run...Chris too...Tre...Hades...Hadrian...Kris...Byydo...Frosty.....
I've talked to Roberts once, and writer Telep a few times.
Talked to Roberts huh? The thing that's terrible is that Roberts had to talk to Hadrian...now that's....wow...
Matthew Lillard never responded to my mails but it was worth a try. To make things even bigger, I'm an offical member of the International Mark Hamill Fan Club, which I've written articles for. I'm also an extremely overly-done film freak, who, as you might well know, is trying to write a script better than Kevin Droney. I'd like to direct it too but, hey, chances are...?
In any event, drop me a line...
Ha! HA! HAHA! HAHAHAHAAAAAAAAHAHAHHAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAH! Heh, hehe, heheheh,
I think Frosty's trying to say, "Welcome to the staff."
HCl's page goes down, and billions die...
Scott M. Greene
Have you Guys seen HCl's WC page lately? Neither have I!!! HE SHUT
DOWN!!! (sob... sob... sob...) I really like his work and feel that he
should stick with it.
You may have noticed we reported about this on December 15.
I've never been particularly fond of anything he's done, and, quite frankly,
I find his website to be a vile and ugly pit of broken links and unfinished
promises. Yeah HCl, you go!
But his reason's are valid (see the page in place of
his site). I agree with him that Wing Commander is, if not dead, dying.
Don't chunk my e-mail in the garbage just yet!! HEAR ME OUT PLEASE!!
I was ready to chuck this letter when you asked if I'd read HCl's page
first reason is that, Chris Roberts, the very creator of Wing Commander
longer ALLOWED to work on it due to his departure from Origin.
Then who directed the WC movie?
And over the
years we have seen some degrading and even corruption of the Wing
What's that supposed to mean?
I am a real WC nitpicker here so bear with me. Look at the movie.
just BARELY hung with the plot of WC1 and beared no resemblance to any
Wing Commander game or book.
Right, it was a new story that took place shortly before WC1.
Chris Roberts made the movie, yet you call it corrupt. This is depsite the
fact that you worry over his departure from Origin.
The Cats were no longer cats but some sort of
with a weird on-ship atmosphere.
The Kilrathi were never cats to begin with. You may have also noticed
they look different in absolutely every product they're featured in.
The Confed ships were
completely redesigned (not complaining, just would have been nice to
recognize the ships before the gave their names). Not to mention WC:
Prophesy was a big step-down in tradition.
Prophecy was a back-to-basics appraoch that came closer to WCI/II than the
others did. It was returning to traditions that had been left behind in
The ships and enemy were OK, but
the mission layout, plot, and loss of "interactive movie" qualities
make me think it should be made a classic like WC1, WC2 or WC3 but that
should have been thrown out and remade!
Funny, WCI/II weren't interactive movies, and you left out WCIV, the *most*
interactive of them all.
Not to mention I missed the loadout
screen. Picking out the missiles was one big thing I liked doing...
Then there's the lack of creativity. When WC was going good they
quite a few "spin-off" games like Academy and Armada. I wouldn't mind
an Armada II.
How is this a lack of creativity? It's more a lack of funds to throw away
on side-projects. Games cost a lot more to make than they used to.
Privateer II and the rumors of 3 aren't too exciting for
Privateer 2 came out in 1996, Privateer 3 was cancelled and replaced in
And plus there's the fact of redundancy. Doom was a very popular game
it came out and almost everybody played it and it's sequel Doom II.
many people still play Doom or Doom II. Well, the one thing I don't want
to do is to agree to all this and LET it die.
As far as we know, WC is doing great, with the movie raking in profits
worldwide, and rampant rumors of a Wing Commander Online game. Nobody is
letting anything die, this is just the calm before the storm.
Got a good Idea for a new WC game? Spam Origin with E-mails about
Yeah, then they're really not delete our eMails without reading them since
they like SPAM.
That'd be rather silly. I doubt they'd throw away the millions they've
already invested in the next game because they got a couple dozen conflicting
opinions on what they should do with their Wing Commander franchise.
Nope. Those who are impatient might though.
Let Origin hear them!! If they think we like what
giving us the they wont try to make it much better!!
But I like WC:P/WCM, and so do a lot of other fans.
And last but not
least... try to always keep a schedule for WC!! Mario shut down his page
because he had no time. That is OK since he is in a University and he
focus on that. But if your just siting on your ass at home watching TV,
go to your computer, play some WC or log on and participate in Web
I'd like to know exactly who you're addressing here. All the CIC staff
members are at college, and I'm a Junior in high school. I also work 30
hours a week. I'm never on my arse doing nothing.
Or read one of the fairly new WC novels!! And let Origin know
of your thoughts and opinions
Origin doesn't publish WC books, and it's not like they're gonna threaten
the authors with cement shoes if they don't change it to what a couple fans
think is the way WC *should* be. Grow up.
DON'T LET AN AWESOME ERA OF WING COMMANDER DIE OUT!!!
Fat chance that'll happen.
Thanks for listening,
Scott M. Greene, A.K.A. The Conquerer
I liked him a lot better eight pages ago...
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