Originally posted by LividLiquid
KillerWave, you've only demonstrated my point. I don't actually think that Freespace\Starlancer\Xwing were a part of the WCU. I was using that as an analogy\argument to Loaf's point. Don't take things so damned literally.
I was joking, didnt you see the smiling face? And i dont see how i proved your point...
Originally posted by LividLiquid
Speaking of Loaf... WELCOME BACK!!!!
Yes, welcome back, forgive me for being rude and not sayng this before...
Originally posted by LividLiquid
Anyway, in regards to another post made, No. Privateer, Armada, Academy, and so on were definitely part of the Wing Commander universe. You know it, as well as I do, but the reason Privateer 2 is different in my mind is due to the fact that the foundations of the world are different.
Ahhh, now you proved MY point
. P2 is different in your mind...
Originally posted by LividLiquid
Jumping nav points replaced Autopilot. Jump gates could be manufactured. Weapons and equipment were different. (I hate having to repeat myself.)
Autopilot wasnt replaced with jumping, the control keys where different. And repeating myself too, isnt P2 like 100 years in the future?, so obiviously guns and equipment changed...
Originally posted by LividLiquid
THIS is the reason P2 being a part of the WCU is debatable. Origin renamed it more than midway through the game. So we all know it wasn't designed originally to be a WC game. This isn't up for debate. What IS up for debate is weather or not we should consider it part of the WCU..
No its not, renaming a game isnt reason to make it dont belong to the same universe, and like Loaf sayd, it was designed to be a wc game. My point again...you can consider it the any way you want, but it is part of the WCU. (There is a reason why only Origin can make new WC games, they hold the right to its franchise, so they are the only ones that can say whats in the WCU).
Originally posted by LividLiquid
The facts are as follows:
Point: Origin says so. They should be taken seriously.
No, Origin word is the only one that matters
Originally posted by LividLiquid
Counterpoint: Origin says a lot of things that are full of crap
Point: There are two or three as-of-yet UNSPECIFIED instances in The Darkening in which WC or the Confeds are mentioned.
Counterpoint: These were thrown in at the last minute to justify placing a "Privateer" monicer on the game.
So there is reference, and the same as before
Originally posted by LividLiquid
Counterpoint: The physics are different.
Dont see it.
Originally posted by LividLiquid
Counterpoint: Everybody's british.
Thats because the ACTORS who participed in it where British, that doesnt means the characters are too. If they all where japanese, that means everybody where japanese? And remmember you didnt meet everyone in the system...
Originally posted by LividLiquid
Counterpoint: It wasn't designed to be a WC game.
Are you sure?
Originally posted by LividLiquid
Counterpoint: Chris roberts had nothing to do with it, though he was still at the focal-point of the Wing Commander franchise at the time. (If anybody says that that rules out Prophecy, I'm going to laugh at you.)
In that case I will laugh at you, if thats correct for P2 must be for WCP too.
Originally posted by LividLiquid
Counterpoint: The refferences made to WC are vague at best, and could far more easilly be chalked up to "Whatever" than "It's WC!"
So? Its still reference, even if is only the word Confed somewhere...
Originally posted by LividLiquid
Counterpoint: We're all big, fat nerds for arguing about this for so damned long. Not because arguing is stupid, but because if one looks over these posts in full, one will notice that the argument has turned into a game of "Repeat as neccesary"
Huh, im not fat
Originally posted by LividLiquid
So I'm saying, you may think I'm wrong in saying that Privateer 2 isn't in the WC universe, but none of you has proved me wrong yet. As I've said before, I don't care what Origin says. They've lost all their credibillity. I don't care that there's a Talon-esqe ship in Privateer. I don't care that a (not the) confederation is mentioned. I want facts. I want proof. I want somebody to prove me wrong without resorting to the typical "You're retarded, and I'm right no matter what you say" posts. C'mon, people. Some of us have been WC fans for elleven years. I know we can do better than this.
I never sayd you where retarded, yet there is enough proof already, even if it doesnt need to. Origins word is rule in this subject. Thats you that must prove that ím wrong, make Origin says its not in the WCU and i will believe you...
WOW...big post!!