Hm, I remember races like the Varni that migrated to Confed space, and were on ships and stations. I remember different kinds of aliens from Academy TV....
My dear Earthworm, if Academy TV was a part of the WC universe, then we seem to have a major continuity problem on our hands
. For one thing, when that happens, then the WC movie never existed
- Blair keeps sending messages to his parents in Academy, while his parents are *dead* for quite a while in the movie. Furthermore, in SM2, Blair states he's never seen an alien. But he sees them in Academy... why, I'm inclined to believe that one of those sources would have to be wrong
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And as for the Varni... if they were any more common than the bird known as Dodo, I'm sure we'd hear of them in the WC games.
I shouldn't be surprised if I see a little house cat. Lions, are uncommon. At least in countries without all that free space.
But if the Kilrathi are just as common as aliens, then lions are just as common as cats. If, on the other hand, you say that lions are an exception to the rule, than it's fair enought to assume that when Blair sees a Kilrathi, he doesn't just shrug him off as "yet another alien".
Of course. It's called WC: Priv. Curiously enough though, P2 is not called WC: Darkening...
Care to explain why that amuses thee?
Hm, Confed also says that people from the Landreich can't settle on planets that are unpopulated, and not a part of Confed...
Where?
I wouldn't call needing permision from Confed a real argument either. There could be milions of reasons for that.
Humour me. Name one
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Why? Because it fits with your points.
No.
I don't do that. I would, however, think it fairly obvious why the middle part of the production would be important. The beginning is when they design the game, without going into too great a detail. The end is when they prepare the game for marketing, by writing the manuals, designing the box art, etc. Is it so strange to assume that those Confed references appeared during the middle part
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Have you even thought that P2 might be too far to make shiping profitable? Or that it may not have anything that's not found in Confed.
In that case, how did the Talon get there? Also, why does Confed care if the Tri-Systemites settle another worthless planet?
Brilliance? The drug from Priv? Don't you think that people could come up with a better drug over 100 years?
Why, yes, I think I see your point... as a matter of fact, alcohol went out of use within a hundred years, right?
And so did nicotine, right?
And everything seems to indicate that Marijuana, Opium, and others will do the same, right?
Did you know that WinME is not even suposed to have DOS in it?
Did you know that they said that about Win95, and Win98?
That's because you're playing a game. There are milions of things you don't do.
Wait... you mean that in real life, they WOULDN'T use computers to make a pilot's life easier?
But if you don't want your comp to check through all fighters ever made in the last 600 years, you would enter a date of 20-30 years back or so.
Yeah, right. A good idea, with all those 50-year old carriers still floating around, right? But wait... didn't you say that the Rapier had been around for something like a 100 years before the Movie? Well, then I imagine it registers as an "unknown" on the Kilrathi screens. I guess they think that it's yet another alien race, coming to help the Terrans
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Since when are the Cone/Starburst missiles exceedingly dangerous?
Since they contain non-standard, very powerful payloads, which do damage to all ships in a given area. A mine also does that... but then, a mine doesn't have a nuclear payload, right?
A missile without tracking, and a powerfull warhead, that simply blows up and sends little bullets all around should be more expensive than a missile with a computer to identify a target, and with a warhead that has a power to destroy a ship with one hit?
You said it. Note that the Mace missile can and frequently does take out two Fralthras in one hit. It takes four torps to do so.
Neither are any of the ships you get to fly in P2.
Which doesn't change the fact that they don't have cargo bays, and are right about the same size as P2's military fighters.
And do you think that ships in P2 don't have any space in there? We do tractor in several things during the game, so we need a place to put them in. It's not that big, but it is there.
Who say's the cargoes go
into the ship when tractored in? You're not usually required to take them very far. For all you know, they could just be strapped to the bottom of your vessel.
And how do you know that it's two/three times bigger? Do you think it 60-90 meters long?
I don't know how big they are exactly. But what I do know is that (tonnage-wise) you'd fit two Sabres, or four Ferrets in a Centurion's 50 ton cargo bay. In a Galaxy, even a Broadsword would fit. What does that say about their size?
No, it's disappointing that you assume something like that.
Why, Earthworm, what choice do you leave me?
The cloacking device wasn't standard on those Excals. They were equpied with it because they went on a special recon mission. And we didn't see it in the game itself. We didn't see a cloack in P2 either. But because of the ICIS we know that it exists, how do you know it doesn't exist in P2?
<sigh> Because nothing says that it does. If, "no proof" to you means that the statement is true, then I'd like to know why Blair didn't use his Jedi powers in any of the WCs. After all, he must have them, since there's no proof that he does, right?
No, they didn't.
He he, and how do you know that, let's say the Kraven isn't from Confed? Or the Warp Shield? Or the Brute missile? It is over 100 years after the last game in the main series, why would there be, for example, Tachyon guns, or Swarmer missiles in P2?
Sigh... Swarmers, for example, are a type of missile SYSTEM, not of a missile. Their payload would improve, and eventually you'd see a Brute Swarmer. But you don't, do you? As for all the other stuff, I think I'll let Angel answer for me...
"But there is no proof! Next time, you will be seeing pink elephants with wings, n'est ce pas? [...] Get back to me when you've got a better storry to tell."
In other words, don't be silly. There is absolutely nothing in P2 that would indicate any relationship with Confed. Now, so far I've given plenty of good reasons (or at least reasons that everyone but you consider good enough) as to why that is the case. All you've provided in return is a number of weak arguments that seemingly defy all logic known to mankind.
