Dark Ficus said:
How did they justify their beliefs regarding homosexuality? Leviticus 18.
Well, if you want to get *technical* about it, homosexuals don't lie with women in the same way they lie with men
vindicator said:
I don't choose to be gay, I choose to be happy
Contradiction is A-1 SUPAR! *rimshot*
Preacher said:
-- Not that hard to theorize at all, actually: Studies have shown that there is a high correlation between certain types of upbringing and the likelihood that a person will turn out gay. Specifically, an upbringing where the father is either absent, or (if he is present in the family at all) is cold, distant, and unloving toward the child, and the mother is overly controlling and protective towards the child. This is mainly in the case of males, but it may also hold for the female children of such a household as well.
I'll come back to this in a sec.
-- Your theory is seriously flawed, guy. To put things in perspective, it brings things into focus to remember that your example spoke of the
French, fer cryin' out loud. 'Nuff said...
Don't be racist, thank you.
-- Well, I don't know about you, dude, but I'm 100% hetero, which pretty much blows your theory out of the water.
Yeah, my theory about how gay people are gay is refuted by the fact you aren't gay.
What? This is like saying that you don't like spam, therefore the world doesn't like spam.
I love the smooth curve of bountiful breasts, the way a woman smells, the wonderfully mysterious terrain of her, um, "womanhood", the way they laugh, the sweet sound of their voice as they speak and sing, or say/moan my name, the rich thickness of her hair running thru my fingers, the smooth softness of their skin, the dangerous curves of the feminine hips, butt, and thighs, the way it feels - from beginning to end - to "be" with them; damn, the whole PACKAGE!!!.
As the late comic Sam Kinison said: "..how can a guy look at another guy's hairy a@@, and call that love, huh? How does that work?...
I have no desire (no, not even a 0.5% desire...) to find out the answer to his question. Uggghhhh!!!
::shudders::
You are honestly frightening me
And as we all know, mating with one of the same gender as us produces incredibly healthy offspring...
My personal opinion is that it's a much better alternative to the rampant population growth ravaging Southeast Asia and Africa, as well as infaticide and abortions.
And you would have us take seriously a site that posts the following ad (right up at the top of the page, no less...)??...
"Love Spells and Love Spell Kits
Purchase powerful love spells and spell kits to help you find - and keep - the love of your life"...
Riiiiiiight...
Ad hominim fallacy - you are dismissing the opponent out of hand without even examining his argument. If YOU have evidence contradicting the statistics on the effectiveness on faith based ministries or even revealing them as outright lies, then post them and we can discuss this in a somwhat mature manner. The burden of proof lies on YOU. Until then, I will continue to accept them at face value, even if the banner ads were for "Satanic Communist Nazi Tantric Sex in Wet Cement" (and personally, I think that's probably better than most banner ads).
Incidently, I am not of the belief that homosexuality is caused by genes. Nor do I particularly care. My reasoning is that, okay, they're gay, we can't do anything about it, they aren't hurting anyone, we might as well live with it. (Before you bring up the "collapse of family values and the end of western civilization", I would note that unless you can prove every link between "homosexual marriage is legalized" to "total anarchy", your argument is a Slippery-Slope fallacy and I can't honestly take it seriously.)
Also, I don't believe that legalizing an institution is necessarily a step to promoting it - in fact, the opposite can occur (witness the spectacular failure of Prohibition, brought up with the best of intentions and in a matter of years accelerated the rise of organized crime). Other examples don't exactly bear your argument out - Mormons don't drink alchohol, Creationists don't believe in evolution, Jews don't eat pork, yadda yadda yadda. That's fine.
I don't care. In fact, I would argue that in a nation that prides itself on its democratic institutions, it is your
moral duty to stand up for what you believe in, and not rely on the government to protect you from yourself. Unless you are directly harming someone else,
it's not the government's job to legislate morality. And no, I don't believe homosexuality should be taught in schools - there are plenty of private (albeit overzealous) organizations perfectly capable of handling it. Ideals competion, let the best ideal win. Isn't that what America is all about?
(Incidently, I am also for legalizing marijuana - albeit with the launch of a massive public campaign condeming it and taxed through the roof. Let's be frank, though - can we really control the spread of drugs in the country, and is it worthy to devote such disproportionate resources to what I believe is a hopeless cause? The same goes with anti-homosexuality laws).