Ghost
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Originally posted by junior
since the unit that reconed the Kilrah system was flying Piranahs.
If you mean Prophecy not SO, it was a Recon Excallibur piloted by Major Washington
Originally posted by junior
since the unit that reconed the Kilrah system was flying Piranahs.
Originally posted by junior
Once again, are there roll-out dates available on any of the Prophecy fighters?
Originally posted by Viper61
I'd still like a run down on all fighters in the Confed arsenal since WC1 (tall order and I'm not really asking for it, just an early birthday wish for me ).
Originally posted by Ghost
If you mean Prophecy not SO, it was a Recon Excallibur piloted by Major Washington
Originally posted by Penguin
I think the biggest problem with the Hellcat is that it pales in the company that it is placed. The Arrow is faster and nimbler, plus has more missiles. The Thud's got more firepower. The Longbow takes care of missions where there's lots of capships. Then there's the Excalibur, 'nuff said. Now how's the venerable Hellcat, already in its 5th model, supposed to keep up?
Originally posted by I'm thinkin...
The BW's Vindicator also fills the role of jack of all trades.
Originally posted by junior
Point taken.
I've been operating under the assumption that the fighters on board the Midway are all relatively recent designs that were only introduced within the last few years (culminating with the Vampire and Devestator releases). The lack of such fighters in the local garrisons in SOP (iirc, the local fighters are primarily Excaliburs and Thunderbolts) seems to bear this out, although its hardly conclusive. OTOH, the units closer to Kilrah se
em to have the newer fighters, since the unit that reconed the Kilrah system as flying Piranahs. My basic theory was that the Confed Navy was in the middle of a fleet-wide upgrade when the Nephilim hit, with the Midway class carrier being the focal point of the upgrade.
At any rate, I don't have my Prophecy manual handy at the moment. Are the fighter roll-out dates listed there, or are they available elsewhere? I'm now rather curious to know when the Prophecy fighters might have first become available.
While the Dragon is numbered higher than the Tigershark and the Piranah, that isn't necessarily conclusive. In the modern USAF, numbers have been finagled when necessary (case in point - the F-117) to hide what is going on (and Tolwyn may have adopted a similar tactic with the Dragon, since it was intended for a morally questionable unit). Of course, the other side of the coin is that the numbers could indicate that the Tigershark and Piranah were already in service during WC4 (or perhaps they were conceived during the later stages of the Kilrathi war, and not actually built until much later?).
Once again, are there roll-out dates available on any of the Prophecy fighters?
Originally posted by Viper61
The new fighters for each new wing commander were there to get you to buy the new game so you could fly the "top of the line equipment". back story was probably applied later. I think I saw this in an earlier post from loaf (pertaining to WC3 fighters anyway) but I'd still like a run down on all fighters in the Confed arsenal since WC1 (tall order and I'm not really asking for it, just an early birthday wish for me ).
Originally posted by Ghost
LOAF: There aren´t two versions or two diferent Rapiers?
The Rapier from the movie and the Rapier from WCI/II ?
Or they are the same with some diferent cosmetic details?
Originally posted by Raptor
As Ghost already said, even frontline recon units use Excaliburs, so they can hardly be called obsolete. Not only that, even line warships in SO carry and launch Excals and Thunderbolts.
Originally posted by Raptor
For one thing, we don't know how common Pirhanas and Tigerhsarks are off other carriers, since we don't see action on other carriers. For another, age and their numberss in SO aren't neccessarily tied together. If you had the choice, which would you rather have defending your home system, an Pirhana or an Excalibur?
Originally posted by Bandit LOAF
F-107 Lance class Heavy Fighter (2672)
Originally posted by junior
The Piranha is more of a scout , so probably not that. But I would expect to see more Tigersharks. The fact that you can count the number of Tigersharks in SOP on your fingers is, IMHO, an indication that they're fairly uncommon, which hints that they might be new. I'd also expect to see Wasps (these would probably be quite useful for base defense) and Panthers, but while the Vampires show up once or twice, I don't think the Wasps and Panthers are seen at all (except for those flown off the Hades).
Originally posted by Raptor
Tthe rarity of the Tigershark in SO might well be due to the advantages the Excalibur offers over the Tigershark. For HG squadrons who don't have wings of superiority fighters to back them up, the firepower and special abilities of the Excal like autotracking, atmospheric flight and jump drive might well make it more attractive than the Tigershark.
Originally posted by Bandit LOAF
Not quite...
The actual name of the fighter is the 'Lance'.
'Dragon' was a common callsign that caught on as the 'popular' name. Like how the Thunderbolt II is called the Warthog.
The variant in WCIV is the special ops version (like those -S variants of the WCP ships), so it's a Black Lance.
Tolwyn's project gets its nickname from the fighter, not vice-a-versa.