X_FIREFALCON
Spaceman
Hey, all.
First off, my compliments to the WC community here. I absolutely love the WC Universe, and just recently bought WC 1 through 4 (Kilrathi Saga & 2-sided WC4 DVD)...great storylines, great characters. Hell...might make a few of you sick to your stomachs, but I even liked the movie even though they could have/should have done more with the concept to make it more like the game, improve some of the dialogues a bit, have many more dogfights, and made the cats look MUCH better (maybe more like WC3)....but even so, I still liked it and found it entertaining. Call me simple-minded.
Also, I want to commend those members of the community who compiled all these pages of detailed information about the entire WCU, including the ships and mission-walkthrough for all the WC games as well as the map that shows the various quadrants, sectors, and systems of the WCU complete with jump points to link them (though it could drive a fella mad trying to connect some of the dots!).
First time poster here, and I had a few general questions I'm hoping someone (or everyone!) might be able to help me with:
(1) This is the real big one here; is there any kind of database anywhere that lists the planets in some (or most) of these systems? Right now, I'm trying to play through all the games and make a mental note of planets and civilizations mentioned, but needless to say, this would not cover most of the systems appearing on the WCU map. I'm just looking for general information more than anything else - how many planets in each system, which are habitable, which are occupied by sentient life, which were destroyed (like Kilrah & Mylon II), etc. Additionally, I'm unclear of a few things in Sol. Naturally Earth has sentient life (unless you're overly critical of the human race!)...does Mars and Venus? I remember reading that Paladin was born on a spacestation over Venus, but what about Venus itself? And regarding Scylla, the blackhole from the movie, I noticed that her jump point is included on the WCU map. I'm just kind of curious where in Sol Scylla is located just as a reference point.
(2) Where are we left after the add-on to Prophecy? Isn't there a permanent gate left open in Vega Sector or somewhere near Sol?
(3) Do we ever get to see what Nephilim space looks like? (It's been awhile since I've played Prophecy, and though I plan to again in the future, I'm only onto WC2 now after playing through WC1 and its 2 Secret Mission add-ons.)
(4) How old would the old fogies of Wing Commander be now at the end of the Prophecy add-on (or rather at the end of the WC timeline)? If he were alive, I thought I figured Blair would be pushing his early to mid fifties, Maniac would be about a year behind him, and Paladin would be a dinosaur, roughly 20 years older than that? Does that seem about right?
(5) I haven't played through WC3 or 4 yet, and on the map, I noticed that Ghorah Khar, the famed rebel system from the earlier WC games, is included in Kilrathi space. Did they rejoin the Kilrathi Empire prior to the war's end? I was under the impression that they moved over to the Confederation during the war. Did they go back during or after it?
(6) What are peoples' take on the Nephilim, Mantu, Steltek, Double-Helix, and Star God relationship? From what I've read in the community, I'm under the impression that the "Star Gods" are the Kilrathi's name for the Nephilim, named after the supposed hostile race that fulfills the Prophecy of Sivar (this might be a misnomer, of course, as the Nephilim might not actually be the fulfillment of this prophecy). The Steltek are an ancient race that moved coreward in the Milky Way and while they are dedicated to peace and solitude, they closely monitor the other species of the WCU and there was at least that one incident with that Steltek scout that was supposedly a real mean son-of-a-gun. The Nephilim is the Confederation's name for the bugs...or at least the name given to the enemy by the crew of the Midway after Zero recounts some ancient biblical tale - I'm guessing the whole story of fallen angels descending to earth and procreating with human females to create half-human, half-angel abominations dubbed "Nephilim" (not up to speed with bible stories myself, honestly...do the Nephilim ever actually appear in it?). Little is known of the Double-Helix and the Mantu from what I gather. The Mantu were supposed to be basically the Kilrathi's equals in battle - all the battles between the two seemed to end in a stalemate. I believe the Mantu were the Kilrathi's last engagement prior to bumping into the Confederation. Little more is known about the Double-Helix than the fact that their ships resemble a shape that gave them that name (and are they the ones that communicate through pheremones or something like that?). Is there any evidence that any of these races relate to one another? Might some of them, in fact, be the same race? Or are they all supposed to be different? From the pictures I've seen (I've never played Privateer, unfortunately), some of the pictures of Steltek ships look like they could have been predecessors or some kind of ancient ancestors of some of the Nephilim ships (sorry if I'm totally off on this...just making an observation which may be right or completely off).
(7) What kind of governmental entities control the various sectors of space? I'm assuming that the Confederation is now ruled by some kind of council, is that accurate? Are the Kilrathi ruled over by the leaders of all the surviving tribes? What about the Border Worlds? Are there any leadership big-wigs worth mentioning besides Senator Taggart (Paladin)?
Sorry for such a drawn-out questionnaire, and I apologize if the information here is clearly displayed somewhere and I just missed it or some of the points I've made are inaccurate. I would appreciate any answers you guys could give to help improve my knowledge base here, though.
Thanks in advance for any responses.
Respectfully,
Firefalcon ~};^
First off, my compliments to the WC community here. I absolutely love the WC Universe, and just recently bought WC 1 through 4 (Kilrathi Saga & 2-sided WC4 DVD)...great storylines, great characters. Hell...might make a few of you sick to your stomachs, but I even liked the movie even though they could have/should have done more with the concept to make it more like the game, improve some of the dialogues a bit, have many more dogfights, and made the cats look MUCH better (maybe more like WC3)....but even so, I still liked it and found it entertaining. Call me simple-minded.
Also, I want to commend those members of the community who compiled all these pages of detailed information about the entire WCU, including the ships and mission-walkthrough for all the WC games as well as the map that shows the various quadrants, sectors, and systems of the WCU complete with jump points to link them (though it could drive a fella mad trying to connect some of the dots!).
First time poster here, and I had a few general questions I'm hoping someone (or everyone!) might be able to help me with:
(1) This is the real big one here; is there any kind of database anywhere that lists the planets in some (or most) of these systems? Right now, I'm trying to play through all the games and make a mental note of planets and civilizations mentioned, but needless to say, this would not cover most of the systems appearing on the WCU map. I'm just looking for general information more than anything else - how many planets in each system, which are habitable, which are occupied by sentient life, which were destroyed (like Kilrah & Mylon II), etc. Additionally, I'm unclear of a few things in Sol. Naturally Earth has sentient life (unless you're overly critical of the human race!)...does Mars and Venus? I remember reading that Paladin was born on a spacestation over Venus, but what about Venus itself? And regarding Scylla, the blackhole from the movie, I noticed that her jump point is included on the WCU map. I'm just kind of curious where in Sol Scylla is located just as a reference point.
(2) Where are we left after the add-on to Prophecy? Isn't there a permanent gate left open in Vega Sector or somewhere near Sol?
(3) Do we ever get to see what Nephilim space looks like? (It's been awhile since I've played Prophecy, and though I plan to again in the future, I'm only onto WC2 now after playing through WC1 and its 2 Secret Mission add-ons.)
(4) How old would the old fogies of Wing Commander be now at the end of the Prophecy add-on (or rather at the end of the WC timeline)? If he were alive, I thought I figured Blair would be pushing his early to mid fifties, Maniac would be about a year behind him, and Paladin would be a dinosaur, roughly 20 years older than that? Does that seem about right?
(5) I haven't played through WC3 or 4 yet, and on the map, I noticed that Ghorah Khar, the famed rebel system from the earlier WC games, is included in Kilrathi space. Did they rejoin the Kilrathi Empire prior to the war's end? I was under the impression that they moved over to the Confederation during the war. Did they go back during or after it?
(6) What are peoples' take on the Nephilim, Mantu, Steltek, Double-Helix, and Star God relationship? From what I've read in the community, I'm under the impression that the "Star Gods" are the Kilrathi's name for the Nephilim, named after the supposed hostile race that fulfills the Prophecy of Sivar (this might be a misnomer, of course, as the Nephilim might not actually be the fulfillment of this prophecy). The Steltek are an ancient race that moved coreward in the Milky Way and while they are dedicated to peace and solitude, they closely monitor the other species of the WCU and there was at least that one incident with that Steltek scout that was supposedly a real mean son-of-a-gun. The Nephilim is the Confederation's name for the bugs...or at least the name given to the enemy by the crew of the Midway after Zero recounts some ancient biblical tale - I'm guessing the whole story of fallen angels descending to earth and procreating with human females to create half-human, half-angel abominations dubbed "Nephilim" (not up to speed with bible stories myself, honestly...do the Nephilim ever actually appear in it?). Little is known of the Double-Helix and the Mantu from what I gather. The Mantu were supposed to be basically the Kilrathi's equals in battle - all the battles between the two seemed to end in a stalemate. I believe the Mantu were the Kilrathi's last engagement prior to bumping into the Confederation. Little more is known about the Double-Helix than the fact that their ships resemble a shape that gave them that name (and are they the ones that communicate through pheremones or something like that?). Is there any evidence that any of these races relate to one another? Might some of them, in fact, be the same race? Or are they all supposed to be different? From the pictures I've seen (I've never played Privateer, unfortunately), some of the pictures of Steltek ships look like they could have been predecessors or some kind of ancient ancestors of some of the Nephilim ships (sorry if I'm totally off on this...just making an observation which may be right or completely off).
(7) What kind of governmental entities control the various sectors of space? I'm assuming that the Confederation is now ruled by some kind of council, is that accurate? Are the Kilrathi ruled over by the leaders of all the surviving tribes? What about the Border Worlds? Are there any leadership big-wigs worth mentioning besides Senator Taggart (Paladin)?
Sorry for such a drawn-out questionnaire, and I apologize if the information here is clearly displayed somewhere and I just missed it or some of the points I've made are inaccurate. I would appreciate any answers you guys could give to help improve my knowledge base here, though.
Thanks in advance for any responses.
Respectfully,
Firefalcon ~};^