What's the most powerful Confed cap ship?

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The most powerfull is the behemot (in hebrew means beast, the leviathan from the old testament)
but i think it is best to choose te most balanced
and it is imo the concordia,PTC, lot of fighters, it is a dreadnought
 
Dragon No offence but in piecetime yea, but in war the Vesuvii are better ships, larger fighter complement, better armor (but worse shielding in ICIS says midway armor is weak), out gun's the midways too. But yea i must go with the connie or the behmoth, tough choice, since the Connie could launch a bomber attack on the Behmoth b4 the behmoth is in range but once it is in range, the connie is toast
 
The behemont is incompleat (good thing, imagine if ConFed have won the war with that thing) so its not as capable the the Connie two Corvettes would have no probs with that big thing.
If it was, I would not get even near that thing unless it was no my side.
 
Originally posted by Napoleon
Dragon No offence but in piecetime yea, but in war the Vesuvii are better ships, larger fighter complement, better armor (but worse shielding in ICIS says midway armor is weak), out gun's the midways too. But yea i must go with the connie or the behmoth, tough choice, since the Connie could launch a bomber attack on the Behmoth b4 the behmoth is in range but once it is in range, the connie is toast
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Well, the Midway's armor is relatively weak for a ship her size. At 2000cm, it's still twice that of a Ranger and 4 times that of the Concordia. Her shields, however, are without equal, being the equivalent of a major fixed installation.

If you're looking for shear power in a capship, it's always hard to go past the Behemoth. She's going to win any 1-on-1 slugfest between capships without question. However, given her vulnerability to fighter attack, she's still not a ship I'd like to be at the helm of without a sizeable fleet to back me up (although if I were within range of an enemy planet/fleet with a sizeable fighter escort, then I would love to be in command ... go ahead ... make my day!).

Still, I guess it comes down to a slugfest between the Versuvius and the Midway. The Vers has the edge in fighters and guns, the Midway in shields and marines. Personally, I'd tip the Versuvius, simply due to the shear number of fighters she carries.

Not that I dislike the old Concordia of course (mmmmmm .... Phase Transit Cannon .... mmmmmm!!) and the Tiger's Claw was a nasty piece of work in her day (mmmmmm .... Angel .... mmmmmm!)
 
Everyone needs to keep in mind that the Behemoth was very incomplete, with almost none of its sheild generators or defensive turrets in place. were it fully constructed, im sure it would be the most powerful ship around.
 
Behemoth was definitely the largest, with the biggest gun. If you consider raw punch, then yes,it would be the most powerful. However, the Behemoth was just one huge gun. I flew through and around her, and I didn't see anything which even remotely resembled a hangar deck, so she doesn't seem to carry her own fighters. With this, the Behemoth will most certainly need escort almost all the time when she's in hostile space. Were her shield generators and keel mounts for turreted weapons completed, she would be very tough indeed, but not invincible. A well coordinated strike can bring her down, and the Kilrathi proved just that. Even with complete defenses, a similar approach with more ordinance can accomplish the same thing.

No, I think the way to determine the most powerful isn't simply in the strength of certain abilities like biggest gun, or number of fighters, but an overall balance and intelligent use of these resources to make the ship able to survive the harshest conditions.

Even the Concordia class can be overwhelmed, but she certainly ranks high on the list. But like Azrael I'd go with a toss-up between the Vesuvius class, and the Midway class. That is of course, until Terran R&D fully figure out the Nephilim ship killer. :) If they can work out the kinks, and allow a Midway class ship to keep it, then I'd go with Midway, as long as I've got first class pilots aboard.
 
If you factor in fighter capability, pilot competancy, manuverability, fleet coordination capability, and the rest it adds up to the most DEADLY cap ship but the ability to blow up an entire planet makes it the most POWERFUL.
 
Well, that being the case, then I'd prefer to be aboard the "deadliest" ship. The only real point in blowing up a whole planet is a show of force. To prove you can, and perhaps scare an opponent into submission. I just find it to be a waste of unharnessed resources in blowing up a whole planet. :)
 
I whole heartedly agree. I'd wanna be on the deadliest ship too, and have as many of them as possible. I can see how blowing up a planet would be usefull. Especially if its blocking your view.
 
But blowing up planets would definitly be more of a deterent then it would be useful for pure military purposes considering it IS wasteful just blowing them up. It would be even more so if both sides had them, considering a war where you jsut blow up each other's planets would mean a no win situation for both sides.
 
I think that the Midway would be the best capship, if it can refire the plasma cannon.

But then again, the behemoth is the strongets. But it was not build to blow up planets. Anything at the end of it's lauching point is destroyed ("even a planet. .." "yeas captain, even a planet.")
 
However, wasn't the Behemoth's main reason for creation was to end the war, ie, blow up Kilrah. Wouldn't that mean it was created AS a planetkiller?
 
Yes,it was.But at the end it was blown up...by the Kilrathi.
And the Confed had all reason to be happy, that it did not even come more worse (if it had fallen in the hands of the K. it would not like to imagine what had happened then!)
 
The Behemoth was one of the many ways to finish the Kilrathi. To bad that Thrakath sended that message and that the Behemoth wasn't finished. But then again, would that stopped the Kilrathi because the Heart Of The Tiger didn't start that "rain" ?
 
Ice I believe you mean the Nephilim, and who knows perhaps Tolywn could have been considered the non-kilrathi born with the heart of a kilrathi. If anything he would make a better kilrathi than blair, blair fights but only because he has to, tolywn fights becuase it is in his blood. That is something Tolywn has that Blair does not.

BTW In FF Tolywn is a Vice Admiral yet right b4 the BoT he is only a Rear admiral
 
Since we’re obviously not requiring the “most powerful” cap ship to be particularly successful or even fully operational, I’ll make a leap of faith and choose the “dreadnought-class battleship” known as Project Omega, which because of its stealth attributes, improved shielding, and rumored super-weapon (further described by Tolwyn as “an even darker secret”) certainly sounds pretty formidable.
 
The new dreadnought is briefly mentioned in Fleet Action. As of the Battle of Terra, it is "under construction on the far side of the Confederation" (away from the front).
 
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I think that the Midway would be the best capship, if it can refire the plasma cannon.

But then again, the behemoth is the strongets. But it was not build to blow up planets. Anything at the end of it's lauching point is destroyed ("even a planet. .." "yeas captain, even a planet.")
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Tolwyn's numbers are quite wrong, by the way.

The Death Star, by comparison, based on calculations that OTHER PEOPLE did from the Star Wars footage, puts out about 4.2E38 watts in its superlaser blast. Vesuvius's gun had similar effects to the Death Star superlaser blast, obliterating Loki VI in about a second of beam dwell time.

So Tolwyn was lying to Blair and Eisen when he told them "five hundred million gigawatts" ("only" 1E18 watts).
 
It all obviously depends on the size of the planet and how they're destroying it. Maybe they've invented some way doesn't use that much energy and destroys atomic bonds or somesuch...

TC
 
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