Toughest WC game?

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culler

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Hi, first post here

Out of curiosity, what do people think is the toughest Wing Commander game?

For me it was WC3, going up against wings upon wings of Vaktoths in a Hellcat was quite a challenge, made the ending even sweeter, coz you felt you had really "earnt" that victory.

Missiles had to be used sparingly, were easily avoided, and usually took more than 1 to bring down a fighter. Decoys were dodgy (maybe I never worked out how to use them properly).

WC4 on the other hand was a walk in the park. Missiles never missed, it only took 1 missile to destroy any ship, and decoys always worked.

What do others think? should this be made into a poll?
 
Hi, and welcome to the board.

I don't think this should be made into a poll... people could just speak their opinions for this post without voting :)

For me it was WC1, since I never finished it :)

But WCP is hard too...


Regards,

Zim
 
WC1 was okay, once I worked out how to save the Ralari, but I could never complete the very last mission. Probably gave up too fast, maybe it was a matter of just keep trying.

WCP is pretty easy, make sure your fingers are never too far from the "E" and "Tab" keys :D

SO is a little more challenging, more Devil Rays and the like, but easy enough, same thing, afterburner and decoys.
 
Hmm, all games are pretty tough. WC1 is tough because escorts are so easily destroyed (but not all that tough. SM1&2 are very tough though :( ). WC2 is tough because now you can't destroy enemy capships so easily anymore. WC3 is tough because of those damned corvettes (god I hated those). WC4 is tough because of the one-hit kill missiles. WCP/SO are tough because of the number of enemies.
I think WC4 rates as the hardest for me, it's the only one I couldn't complete on Ace.
 
Probably SM1, though SM2 is a close second. The missles got better in the later games, at least from my POV, and that made them easier.
 
I too think that both Secret Missions for Wc1 are relatively tough (Sm2 tougher than SM1 IIRC). WC4 on the highest difficulty level was also quite challenging. I found WCP to be the far easiest.
 
I retract my statement about WC4, and also change it to SM1. I forgot to take the insane Gwenhyvar mission into account.
Why is it the Rapier is so much more effective in Kilrathi hands than it is in mine? :confused:
I can't judge SM2 because I'm still playing it. And it ain't going too fast, Uni is keeping me real busy. I'm only at the fifth mission or so. Although SM1 was difficult from mission 1, SM2 is still simple up to now. I don't expect it to stay that way though.
 
Originally posted by Unforgiven
I retract my statement about WC4, and also change it to SM1. I forgot to take the insane Gwenhyvar mission into account.
Why is it the Rapier is so much more effective in Kilrathi hands than it is in mine? :confused:
I can't judge SM2 because I'm still playing it. And it ain't going too fast, Uni is keeping me real busy. I'm only at the fifth mission or so. Although SM1 was difficult from mission 1, SM2 is still simple up to now. I don't expect it to stay that way though.
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Gwenhyvar. I think I ultimately ended up ejecting just to finish that mission (cheap, but it worked).
And you're right. The earlier SM2 missions aren't too bad (which kept throwing me for a loop when I kept 'losing' because I failed to target each ship in the Kilrathi convoy recon mission), but things do get tougher as you go along. IIRC, its the Dralthi missions where things first start to really get tough.
 
That's a really good question, and I'm not really sure. All of them CAN be hard, depending on your flying style, but they could all be easy on the same coin. I'd probably say that 3 was my biggest challenge too, if only because I had to face off with some pretty good enemies, and those corvettes ALWAYS became a problem when your engaged in a dogfight.
 
SWC because it was easier to fall into the losing track. I remember retreating from Grathas a lot (in SWC, they are serious trouble!), and the Rapiers from the Gwenhyvar mission, so I often didn't attain enough 'victory points'. :p
 
hmm.. I never did play SM1 or SM2, even though I do have them somewhere. Trouble is by the time I got them, WC1 was old hat, and I didn't really feel like playing it :)

Also have Special Ops 2 somewhere, got that the same time as SM1+SM2, and didn't play that either (except for the first couple of missions)

Maybe I should go shopping for KS if I can find it, but I've been spoilt by 3D :D
 
WC4 caused me some problems, especially the Peleus missions. Flying around blind with nothing but dumfires was a real pain. I got killed at least a dozen times each mission before getting through. :mad:

WCP and WCSO were really easy except the fact you were outnumbered every time you went out, sometimes 5 or more to 1. At least your wingmen help you out.
 
WC2 was tough because you couldn't just go in with guns blazing on the capships :(

WC3, also, was tough and, yes, mainly because of corvettes... the scourge of the Wing Commander Universe!
 
Originally posted by culler
hmm.. I never did play SM1 or SM2, even though I do have them somewhere. Trouble is by the time I got them, WC1 was old hat, and I didn't really feel like playing it :)

Also have Special Ops 2 somewhere, got that the same time as SM1+SM2, and didn't play that either (except for the first couple of missions)

Maybe I should go shopping for KS if I can find it, but I've been spoilt by 3D :D
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You really missed sth, these add-ons have a very good story and new ships. And good luck trying to find KS... :p
 
Originally posted by Mekt-Hakkikt

You really missed sth, these add-ons have a very good story and new ships. And good luck trying to find KS... :p
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Ah well, too bad I guess.. I think by that stage I was into X-Wing and Tie Fighter... and bitmaps just didn't excite anymore :D

New ships yeah well that happens all the time in the WC universe, you get over it pretty quickly... (oh is that all it does? :))

Though Privateer was fun, that Steltek ship is another tough one. Retro Leader whatisname was a piece of cake in comparison in Righteous Fire.

What with all these fan projects, maybe someone should attempt the holy grail that is Privateer Online, perhaps using the Vega Strike engine or something.
 
I'd kind agree that the corvettes COULD be easy, depends on what ship I was in. In a T-bolt they weren't that bad, but if I was kickin' ass in my Arrow, they could be trouble.
 
The corvettes in WC3 weren't too bad for me, but in WC:P, now that's a different story! Those things would have me cursing a blue streak that would make Mike Ditka proud.
 
Uhm... from WC3 onwards, I guess it depends on the difficulty setting you choose, non? :)

Comparing WC1 and 2 (add-ons included), I'd say that IMO the hardest missions as a whole were the SM2 ones. Taking missions individually, my big winner would be the Gwenhyvar mission in SM1, though the SO1 strike against those two Fralthra, while flying a Sabre, proved to be very challenging as well...
 
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