Confederation Class?

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Iceyl86

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So far there are only two of this design I've heard of... 1 The TCS Confederation. This dreadnought would have been the prototype of the class so even if we dont hear about it, we know it existed, then we hear about the Concordia... but were there any others? I understand given the size and quality this ship was probably very expensive and rare, but still a good type to have around, also I've heard trade rumors about ships from WC1 surviving till prophecy, does that mean that a few of the Confederation class are still around somewhere?
 
Icey
This has been brought up numerous times. Read the Concordia FAQ.
Otherwise if memory serves me correct there was only 3 Confederation Class Dreadnaught.
TCS Terran Confederaton
TCS Concordia
TCS ?? (cant not remember)

They did not make any more because of technical problems and system problems which ran throughout the ship.
That is what I can tell from the top of my head, otherwise LOAF would know all
 
um i think that was it otherwise would have to confer with LOAF but I think taht was it
 
Dahan said:
that was an escort carrier or something it was definitely not a Confederation class
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Granted, it just looks alot like her... i dont know if the picture on the cover of End Run was correct, but if it was... where is the Tarawa's flight deck?
 
The Tarawa is a medium transport modified to be a carrier. It's hangar bay is underneath what we see in the End Run cover. Marc made the hangar up very nicely here.
 
Sarty said:
The Tarawa is a medium transport modified to be a carrier. It's hangar bay is underneath what we see in the End Run cover. Marc made the hangar up very nicely here.
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That is funny! When I first saw the concordia... I thought that was where her flight deck was until I played WC2!!!
 
We know that the Confederation-class' keel is built around the Phase Transit Cannon, which in turn is based on wreckage recovered from the KIS Sivar, destroyed in 2655.

We also know that it takes five years to build a new carrier -- which means that if they started building the Confedration-class immediately after capturing the Proton Accelerator Gun then the class ship, TCS Confederation, could enter service as early as 2660.

We know that the TCS Concordia (CVS-65) entered service in 2661, and that they stopped building the PTC in 2665.

That's pretty much all we know. In this time they could have laid down and built a dozen ships or more simultaneously -- or they could have build only these two. In the same vein, it's possible that both ships began construction in 2656 and they both entered service in 2661... we just don't have enough data to know for sure.

In summary: we know there's a TCS Concordia (CVS-65) and a TCS Confederation... and we know that, based on the WC2 box art, one ship is numbered '14'. We don't really know anything else.
 
I'm not sure, but I recall reading somewhere that there were six Confederation class dreadnoughts completed before they abandoned the design.
 
No, there's nothing like that in the official material.

It's certainly a common fan speculation (six years, six ships), but it's never actually been said.
 
Bandit LOAF said:
No, there's nothing like that in the official material.

It's certainly a common fan speculation (six years, six ships), but it's never actually been said.
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What about the novel for WC4? It states that it was easy for Blair to find his room, because it had been were Angels room was on the Concordia, and this is because the Lexington and Concordia were sister ships ("same class, build from the same plans").

Page 71, last paragraph I think...
 
IIRC, the WC4 Lexington was originally planned as being a Confederation class, but was later switched to being a Concordia class for the game. The novel was based on the original plans. So while in-game the Lexington is a Concordia class, the novel is written under the assumption that it was a Confederation class. LOAF knows more about it.
 
What about the novel for WC4? It states that it was easy for Blair to find his room, because it had been were Angels room was on the Concordia, and this is because the Lexington and Concordia were sister ships ("same class, build from the same plans").

Page 71, last paragraph I think...
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Oh, sorry, clearly this is proof that "that there were six Confederation class dreadnoughts completed before they abandoned the design"

But no, as has been discussed innumerable times, the Wing Commander IV novel assumes that because the Lexington is Concordia-class it is the same kind of ship as the Concordia.

The Concordia in question, though, is actually Confederation-class.

IIRC, the WC4 Lexington was originally planned as being a Confederation class, but was later switched to being a Concordia class for the game. The novel was based on the original plans. So while in-game the Lexington is a Concordia class, the novel is written under the assumption that it was a Confederation class. LOAF knows more about it.
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While this was discussed (very, very early on, for everyone who inists its an example of WCIV being rushed and wanting to do something differently - it is not), it seems much more likely that the novel is reacting to the script referring to the Lexington and Princeton as 'Concordia class' than it is any knowledge of early development discussions.
 
Bandit LOAF said:
Oh, sorry, clearly this is proof that "that there were six Confederation class dreadnoughts completed before they abandoned the design"

But no, as has been discussed innumerable times, the Wing Commander IV novel assumes that because the Lexington is Concordia-class it is the same kind of ship as the Concordia.

The Concordia in question, though, is actually Confederation-class.
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There is no need to be sarcastic, just point to the "innumerable discussions" and everything would be okay. Look, I am just reading the novel again and found myself confronted with this thread while reading this specific page (71).
 
I think I have to reread the novel for wing commander 4
was there any scenes in the game for wing commander 4 for the capture of the TCS Princeton??
 
Bandit LOAF said:
While this was discussed (very, very early on, for everyone who inists its an example of WCIV being rushed and wanting to do something differently - it is not), it seems much more likely that the novel is reacting to the script referring to the Lexington and Princeton as 'Concordia class' than it is any knowledge of early development discussions.
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Oh, I got it now. So basically the author could have greatly benefitted from the Concordia F.A.Q.:)
 
Would it be too sarcastic for our new moderator apparent if I were to suggest that the issue is addressed in the Concordia FAQ linked at the top of this thread?

I think I have to reread the novel for wing commander 4
was there any scenes in the game for wing commander 4 for the capture of the TCS Princeton??
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Yes, the capture of the Princeton is based on one of the optional missions in the Speradon System (Speradon C).
 
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