Hello,
This posting is exactly how it is.
I'm 52 years old, my father has been in war from '39 - til '45 and he has been in the SS. He never, ever spoke about this time. so I don't know what he did and I really do not wanna know it. But I know for shure, that war is bringing up the worst in everybody. See what happened lately in Afganistan, Irak, Vietnam...with US, British or also German Soldiers!
Here at this point I stop this discussion.
Just one thing left to say:
Germany of today is something we Germans can be real proud of.
One Example, the US probably didn't really recognise:
Whoever was at this years football (soccer) world championschip has been impressed. It was the most colourful, biggest, loudest, funniest and best best party ever on this planet.
It is not meaning that anything is fine here and we don't have problems anymore, but it is the same way any country else has it.
Plasteel Skull said:Well, I've read well what Quarto have written and I realize that it was not supposed to mean "Germans must have had their reasons to kill Jews, so it was good" but rather "by approaching the whole problem without prejudice and with deliberation we can come to conclusions helping us to avoid this problem in the future". And as much as I am a backer of this way of solving of many problems, I do not see it appropriate in thit case. Blaming Germans today for the sins of their grandparents would be obviously pointless and harmful of course, but everybody must also remember what, how and why happened and there is IMO not much space for debate whether Nazi germany was either evil or good, what was their motivation for being so evil/good and maybe if this motivation justifies their deeds. This relativism often leads to dissolution of once-firm (because of horrible self-experience of millions of people) views on this problem and possibly might cause it all happen again.
This posting is exactly how it is.
I'm 52 years old, my father has been in war from '39 - til '45 and he has been in the SS. He never, ever spoke about this time. so I don't know what he did and I really do not wanna know it. But I know for shure, that war is bringing up the worst in everybody. See what happened lately in Afganistan, Irak, Vietnam...with US, British or also German Soldiers!
Here at this point I stop this discussion.
Just one thing left to say:
Germany of today is something we Germans can be real proud of.
One Example, the US probably didn't really recognise:
Whoever was at this years football (soccer) world championschip has been impressed. It was the most colourful, biggest, loudest, funniest and best best party ever on this planet.
It is not meaning that anything is fine here and we don't have problems anymore, but it is the same way any country else has it.