its alright now, I got treman working but I have another question/problem. I got the ship files to go into the ships directory for WCPEdit and I edited the ue_tre.cfg file to //install no_folders 0 but when I open UE it gives me an error message saying ' Filestreamer:: open CreateFile failed C:/Secretops/Good One/ueships1.tre'. How can I correct for this?