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about obeying orders

While military people are within their rights to disobey an unlawful order, "unlawful" isn't decided anywhere but a court martial. While some orders may be "obviously" unlawful (shooting down a medical transport, for example), if someone disobeys the orders they still face judicial hearings, at which point the lawfulness (or lack thereof) of the disobeyed order is determined.
 
Re: about obeying orders

Originally posted by Death
While military people are within their rights to disobey an unlawful order, "unlawful" isn't decided anywhere but a court martial. While some orders may be "obviously" unlawful (shooting down a medical transport, for example), if someone disobeys the orders they still face judicial hearings, at which point the lawfulness (or lack thereof) of the disobeyed order is determined.
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But during wartime, isn't disobeying orders punishable by death? Kinda sucks if there's a hearing on the officer who killed you AFTER the fact....
 
Originally posted by Nep Parth
No, I don't.

Paulson admitted that he wasn't a warrant officer, he just didn't tell Blair what rank Seether was. He wears the insignia of a colonel, so he probably is a colonel.

Paulson going "um..." was probably him thinking like mad to try to avoid telling Blair what rank Seether actually was.
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Hmm.. why assume that Seether has *any* Confed military
rank at all?

In Tom Clancy's "Hunt For Red Octobor", the CIA hero,
a civilian, was smuggled aboard an aircraft carrier.
He was given a Commander's uniform to allow him to
blend in and to keep people from raising questions.

Giving Seether a Colonel's uniform would make sense
in such a case because:

1. It stands out less obviously than a Black Lance
uniform.

2. If he needs to do something strange, people are less
likely to question him than if he were in civilian
clothing.

Thus, Seether's only *military* rank may be in the
Black Lance, which may be an entirely different organization
than either Navy or Space Forces.

Respectfully,

Brian P.
 
Re: Re: about obeying orders

Originally posted by Ladiesman^
Originally posted by Death
While military people are within their rights to disobey an unlawful order, "unlawful" isn't decided anywhere but a court martial. While some orders may be "obviously" unlawful (shooting down a medical transport, for example), if someone disobeys the orders they still face judicial hearings, at which point the lawfulness (or lack thereof) of the disobeyed order is determined.
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But during wartime, isn't disobeying orders punishable by death? Kinda sucks if there's a hearing on the officer who killed you AFTER the fact....
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At least they'll give you a nice funeral and a
posthumous medal :). That is .. if anyone ever
finds out at all... Bad things happen on battlefields,
and not everyone who dies is shot by the enemy.

Respectfully,

Brian P.
 
However, Seether DID go through the academy, therefore he did have a rank in Confed. He worked with Confed Intel. So, he must have held rank - which was a Colonel.
 
Originally posted by pendell

Thus, Seether's only *military* rank may be in the
Black Lance, which may be an entirely different organization
than either Navy or Space Forces.
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personally i dont think theres any may about it! the BL are an entirely different organissation, maybe funded secretly by confed, but they arent part of either navy or space force
 
No, Hawk said so when Melek gave the tapes to the Intrepid. (but Hawk didn´t know that Setheer and the guy who fly so temerary are the same person)
 
Erm, it's in WCIV... Hawk remembered him from the Academy...

Moral or not, the Project was simply a Confed black ops unit...
 
Pendell: The reason Alec Baldwin was given a naval uniform in Hunt fo Red October is because his CIA status carried over to Naval Intel and it gave him the status of a commander. It was in the novel, I believe.
 
Plus Jack Ryan was a marine, so its not like he was 100% a civilian even if he wasnt in the marines anymore.
 
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