Tolwyn << this is a response to your response that came after my first one
"you have no idea what you are talking about. Everyone's work will be credited in the mods documentation, when it will come out (in some cases, however, model's origin is unknown)."
not sure if you meant that for me, since i sorta said that too...
"and as far as i can tell, he intends to credit everyone when the time comes."
but it seemed like it was. in any case, i'm sure you'll credit wherever you can. no biggie.
my _only_ beef was starman hounding for work-in-progress credits before he fixes his own. it's just a do-onto-others-as-others-do-onto-you issue.
anyways, about the WDMDF stuff, i've emailed you a couple times about it (years ago). i also emailed matthew since back when he was running it. nobody bothered fixing things, and i gave up maybe a year ago. basically a few of the wcmdf models are credited wrong.
arrow : haroldthemadcow, should be - mesh:scheherazade skin:haroldthemadcow
thunderbolt:scheherazade, should be - mesh:scheherazade skin:haroldthemadcow
darket : mesh:scheherazade skin:haroldthemadcow, should be mesh:scheherazade skin:scheherazade
dralthi : mesh:scheherazade skin:haroldthemadcow, should be mesh:scheherazade skin:scheherazade
paktahn : mesh:scheherazade skin:haroldthemadcow, should be mesh:scheherazade skin:scheherazade
strakha : mesh:scheherazade skin:haroldthemadcow, should be mesh:scheherazade skin:scheherazade
vaktoth : mesh:scheherazade skin:haroldthemadcow, should be mesh:scheherazade skin:scheherazade
the sorthak is the only one credited right out of the lot i sent to wcmdf.
i'm not pressing for a fix right away or anything like that. just responding to :
"If something is not correct there or on my WC3D website, feel free to contact me."
, and i know you're reading this. so those are the corrections that i know about. i donno if there are any others. those are just things i was involved in w/ wojtek (haroldthemadcow).
i donno about the wallpapers, since they aren't on your site. (they might be somewhere in the forums, i dono)
i just checked the web site credits at the time that starman made his post.
at that time, there were no proper credits, given what was presented on the site.
for example:
screenshots : (some models were all by me, some are just my mesh)
http://www.3dactionplanet.com/hlp/hosted/wcsaga/images/artworks/hellcat.jpg
http://www.3dactionplanet.com/hlp/hosted/wcsaga/images/artworks/Paktahn1.jpg
http://www.3dactionplanet.com/hlp/hosted/wcsaga/images/artworks/Thud.jpg
http://www.3dactionplanet.com/hlp/hosted/wcsaga/images/artworks/Vaktoth.jpg
http://www.3dactionplanet.com/hlp/hosted/wcsaga/images/artworks/Dalth.jpg
keep in mind i have _no_ issues with anyone using these, and the issue for me is not about these used without crediting me. it's just reciprocity.
the thing is, at the time starman is pressing reckoning for credits, saga is presenting itself with uncredited art.
you possibly don't use that art anymore, but the fact remains that at least for some time, saga was. and nobody was pressing saga for credits. (because, as i said, i don't care if you use the models. i'm flattered if you do, actually.)
and as far as saga is presenting itself today (via the website), it is still using those models, without credits.
starman << i hope you understand why i thought your post was personally insulting. you griping to reckoning about their use of your models without credit, while you use mine without credit, is simply wrong.
if you had some agreement with reckoning about them no longer using your models after tolwyn leaves, then i totally support you in getting them to stick to their agreement.
but understand, it is _very_ rude to demand credit, while you don't give credit yourself. and i took it as a personal flaw of your character to do so. that is why my response was rough. if you had credits for all of your models (as presented on the site, as far as people know (at least those who don't read your forums religiously watching for every wallpaper)) when you posted this, i would have not been bothered at all. it's simply an issue of fairness. like the proverb : read a book before you try to teach others. (don't take that as me saying you don't read... it's just the situation that i'm expressing).
-scheherazade