ScoobyDoo said:Wasn't "Freespace" a disk compression program like Doublespace?
They only shoved the "Descent" title in just to avoid a copyright infringement with another software released before the game.
Anything I can do to make amends?
the only reason why "descent" was in the title was to avoid trademark infringment on a disk management suite named the same - in the uk it was "conflict: freespace"
Bandit LOAF said:We've already established that this is an absolutely unsupported claim on the part of apologist fanboys -- read the thread.
Bandit LOAF said:Descent has a pretty stupid fandom.
Bandit LOAF said:... are you new here? We've absolutely established that the team in England begin work on Darkening as a Privateer project and that it got 'back' the Privateer name long before marketing had anything to do with it. The old "EA screwed us over" story comes f rom adding the *2* to the name (as it followed the cancellation of a Chris Roberts Privateer sequel -- which also was not a direct followup to the P1 story).
you also didn't establish anything - you posted a bare assertion "this couldn't possibly be true" because you LACK KNOWLEDGE about how it could have been true
So, my point is, when you say "descent fans" but are referring specifically to Freespace, how does it really describe what you're talking about?
well mr LOAF - that's because you're not a software developer or a lawyer
Edx - drop it before he bans you - this is The World According to BanditLOAF - anyone who disagrees with him gets banned.
he's an irrational dipwad who does disgraces the wing commander community with his presence.
I know youve seen tons more stuff than I have, but I was sure this was wrong because I remember learning something different when I read this news article not so long ago. Anyway now Im confused when I went back to check.
And here I understood this that they decided at some point that they needed to tie The Darkening to Wing Commander as a marketing statagy becuase they were scared about not making back the money they had spent on the FMV. IE. That it wasnt meant to be a Wing Commander game originally. So okay, maybe you could say that Privateer wasnt really a Wing Commander either in some sence.
(Wait! Of course! That obscure US law which requires that you add 'Descent' to all names used in the past... except in other countries, even when they share copyright enforcement...)
Well, I wasnt really. I havent read everything as I said and Im not really that bothered, thats why I asked since what you said seemed to contradict what I read in that interview. The reason Im asking is just because I was interested to know why. Erin was the big boss man i figured that what I read from him, which to me was clear I assumed, was accurate and I wouldnt need to check anything else unless I somehow misinterpreted him.Bandit LOAF said:Don't practice selective reading.
Hmm, thats interesting and Im sure you have good reason to say that, but assuming thats correct can you explain why Erin doesnt mention any of it and even says things that contradicts the above? Does he just not know about it? Honestly man, Im, not trying to wind you up I just dont get it.The project the team began in England was originally called Privateer: Darkside (in 1995). There's even a bit about the original project in that same birthday material -- how they started off working on a direct sequel and even rendered some of the original ships (which is where the Talon in P2 comes from).
The game went through many stages, including months of being 'Privateer: The Darkening', just 'The Darkening', 'Privateer: The Darkening' again and then finally, at the last minute, Privateer 2: The Darkening.
This was much later, after it had been 'The Darkening'. It wasn't just a matter of marketing, though -- for all practical purposes, it *was* Privateer -- it's exactly the same gameplay, developed by the same person. .
Mr LOAF - you seem incapable of reading United States TRADEMARK office records
that's the most assinine assertion i've read.... in a long time
they owned the trademarks to Descent, the needed to avoid infringing on the compression software trademark
put two and two togeather
then contractual reasons had it "Conflict: FreeSpace" in europe
you're just a jackass - i don't know why i try to talk sense into you - it's like trying to teach a down's syndrome child to do quantum physics: you just don't have enough brain power to handle the truth