A Revised Discussion of the Kilrathi Language

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    Alright, in order to waste time during my ongoing office move, I decided it was time to put my Kilrathi lexicon to the test yet again. So without any further ado, and in honor of the 25th anniversary of the release of Wing Commander II, I present the opening scenes of Wing Commander II as written in the original trathkh daiB'nal...

    [KN'GA'K'TAKH TALAN DESHAS HUSARI'D'AIY]



    GARGA'D'AIY, AHN KOTAHKLANI NIS...



    LEKIK'TOTHMO ras
    DYAVUZA'A lak KNAVSKA



    AJAHRK ras
    YUHARGA ko DYASHKADONAJI



    AHNGAHR DE:
    K'HAR'KILRATHI



    (INRAHUS'BHAKI): SATN Naj'Thraqilin, du kr'danisdu du Dargbhu K'Tithrak Mang, DargarKilrathi ta Kn'ga Ja'lgaga Hafik

    [KRANTI THISTRAKA TRE R'A SHINT RA CHATHI DU DAKEKRGGAGA.]


    [ESHMAKSLAN'DATAKAV]


    (INRAHUS'BHAKI): Dargbhu K'Tithrak Mang, DargarKilrathi ta Kn'ga Ja'lgaga Hafik


    JOOR'RAD RAG'NITH: "Ni'h'asle ra gar anruni, Thrakhath Rag'nithjhak. Riga'hanistalank, draki. Ork, kirni'linga. Ja'l siv'nis dux Terran'hra?"

    THRAKHATH RAG'NITHJHAK: "Gar'h'ink kra kai lanma du K'Tirhrak Mang, BhantTerran'hra
    Naj'Thraqilin, qu ni'krantihafik'rak gar, maks ek'h'asr'a lanesh'garga'khant eshma'in."

    JOOR'RAD RAG'NITH: "Le erg ri'aji, erg ri'dyaleki'i va! Leba nai ja'l ri'h'astoth Terran'hra."

    THRAKHATH RAG'NITHJHAK: "Hagai, ni'Rag'nith. R'av gar,
    Naj'Thraqilin, bra garga, ek'h'inpanoth d'aik'toxi lanma, nakGhorah Khar, maks ni'khantga'h'asdanisekin garga du Kn'ga Ja'lgaga Hafik kralantakavibrav."

    JOOR'RAD RAG'NITH: "Maks ja'lhu erg dorntaTerran'hra ja'lhra dyadabalan kai k'varggaga?"

    THRAKHATH RAG'NITHJHAK: "Masisu'hra'dakonis gar ta toth'
    Naj'Thraqilin. Gar'h'asdo krant du vesh."

    JOOR'RAD RAG'NITH: "Gakiga! R'av gar, Terran'hra'h'inavork dux kai. Nak'Tara'h'asha gar'hra du ek'badya eshma'in!"


    [ESHMAKSLAN'DATAKAV]


    (INRAHUS'BHAKI): Gar'kolan, Khantahr K'sivki lan Tha'inarakh, Dargbhu Bhutara, Nak'tara


    KHANTAHR lan THA'INARAKH: R'av ri'da'ikaldo takh ikheri, dailerag'nith'h'inavis rai dakoniss erg g'hu qu dyapav. Qu ni'ik mas gar'n'hakh ri'kahri ha'k ri'dakonis,
    Naj'Thraqilin, maks ni'baktahe eshma mas ri'ha dakoniss erg k'la. Ri'ler'avikheri'isu'hras erg vihafikKilrathi...

    NAGGA DAR D'YAN: Gar'ha he, kal - Kilrathi'dya krantik'aiy...

    KHANTAHR lan THA'INARAKH: Dyahu! Dailerag'nith'dinrak ri'mang duchur du Nagga Dar, maks ri'koga'haguk du Akrasiv du mang mas ni'hadyapak. Ni'kotakh'dya aj'k ri'kochirthidrishko duchur.

    NAGGA DAR D'YAN: Ni'hav dakoniss, kal. Ni'h'asavlede ni'hus du gar.

    KHANTAHR lan THA'INARAKH: Jha gar'ha takh ri'rash, Nagga Dar. Ni'dya rathrgin aq garga ta dorntikgak, Braja'Bhakil. Ni'hasna rai du ahni braja. Ri'h'asbha lanesh'ri'koga du dargbhu. Ri'hasha garga'k'varg, BB, ni'k'varg va. Nistalan lanma eshma! Maks ni'rash mas ek'is du vesh, k'la'hra!!


    [ESHMAKSLAN'DATAKAV]


    (INRAHUS'BHAKI): Esh'gai ok Gin Dujha...

    (INRAHUS'BHAKI):
    Hha'Ifra, gar'shintar, Thrakhath Rag'nithjhak


    THRAKHATH RAG'NITHJHAK: Ja'lhu habalan lanma, nakGhorah Khar, Khasra?

    KHASRA dai B'NAL nar KIRANKA: D'aik'tox'hra'dyabhak nak, ni'Kal.

    THRAKHATH RAG'NITHJHAK: Ja'l maihusuh'ink'la gar'kalirahe? Ni'h'inavgath garga bha ni'ikvikranthafik... Haganaska nisjhamakschurdakut erg chathi rothraks du lanma, landashinti Ghorah Khar!

    KHASRA dai B'NAL nar KIRANKA: Ni'Kal, ek'h'astoth kesthai erg danisjha! Maks ri'aji rathsha Terran'hra...

    THRAKHATH RAG'NITHJHAK: ...hadrish. Haganaska kr'a, Khasra, jha ni'h'asjaqdu du Daithrak, maks gath ... ni'rashav du Rag'nith.


    [ESHMAKSLAN'DATAKAV]


    (INRAHUS'BHAKI): Kesthai Du Dujha...

    (INRAHUS'BHAKI): Dargbhu Brajakh Av Akthanovinaj, Bhumaksnaki Irgaiga'hra


    [LEKIK'TOTHMO'NIS]
     
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    I want to give a special word of thanks to @Shades2585 for providing me with his WC2 script. I'm definitely open to translating more scenes from WC2 into my Kilrathi language if there's interest. Kind of appropriate since WC2 is where we see it the most (I was going to say "because that's where it got started", but unless I'm mistaken that distinction belongs to Freedom Flight).
     
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    Nice job. Keep up the great work. :D
     
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    Alright, so in the interest of not de-railing another thread any more than it already has been, and at the request of @-danr- , I have translated the dialogue of Scene 1 of WC3 into Kilrathi. I've chunked it down a bit more than I have for the text of Elegy given that the purpose of this is going to be so it can be read and understood out loud. I'll go ahead and post the phonetic pronunciation as well to the best of my ability; it'll be crude but serviceable, at least until I can brush up on my IPA. I may go ahead and eventually do the entire opening of WC3 (Scenes 1-5) complete with the stage directions, but for now I've got the dialogue so I'll go ahead and post it.

    Counts for this work are one new and six re-purposed.

    JOOR'RAD RAG'NITH: Sha'dyadaq du kahr'ek'Rag'nith. Ahninra erg garga'sivai dyaha'kdymga'qithk ~lanma~, du Kilrah.
    (Sha-d-yah dahkk doo kahr-ek-rahg-neeth. Awn-een-ra urg gar-guh-see-vye d-yah-hock-d-yim-ga-keethk lahn-ma, doo kill-rah.)

    THRAKHATH RAG'NITHJHAK: Make'ha'k a erg rashavthrak. Ukarhik'yan'danis eshma r'av masdiquj, ik mas garga'hatothk. Garga'dyatothk garga'hra gatagas. Hu'h'asha rath va.
    (Maw-kay-hock aw urg rahsh-ahv-thrack. Oo-car-he-k-yan-daw-neice esh-maw ruh-ahv maws-dee-kooj, ick maws gar-guh-hah-towthk. Gar-guh-d-yah-towthk gar-guh-hraw gah-tah-gahs. Who-h-ahs-hah rawth vah).

    JOOR'RAD RAG'NITH: Ri'h'ina du garga takh ri'rash.
    (Ree-he-een-ah doo gar-guh tahk ree-rahsh).

    THRAKHATH RAG'NITHJHAK: Jaqak...
    (Jakk-ak...)

    THRAKHATH RAG'NITHJHAK: K'le! Ni'takhari, garga'ha sivai va, qu kirshkaltali.
    (K-lay! Nee-tahk-har-ee, gar-guh-hah see-vye vah, qu keer-shkahl-tahl-ee).

    THRAKHATH RAG'NITHJHAK: Erg garga, or uni ha rashs erg haiduk takh siva, chakta mas garga'dalyai'el 'Angel'.
    (Urg gar-gah, oar oo-nee hah rah-shiz urg hi-dook tahk see-vah, chack-tuh mahs gar-guh-doll-yai-el ain-jel.)

    THRAKHATH RAG'NITHJHAK: Kal Shintahr Devereaux, ri'gathkiv kai eshma? Desh ek'ha'k rashgath h'indal takhlan ra ri'hra, ri'h'askavbhaki gar?
    (Cal shin-tar dev-ur-oh, ree-gahth-keev kye esh-maw? Dehsh ek-hock rahsh-gahth he-een-doll tock-lahn rah ree-hraw, ree-huh-ahsk-ahv-baw-kee gar?)

    KAL SHINTAHR DEVEREAUX TERRAN'HRA: Kilrathi'avh'indal ra takav'hra.
    (Kill-rah-thee-ahv-huh-een-doll rah tah-kahv-hraw.)

    THRAKHATH RAG'NITHJHAK: Va. Maks ta ek'ha k'toth masiv eshma, ri'gathkiv'ha [d'aiy] [k'rakh]maksh'inava.
    (Vah. Mahks tah ehk-hah k-towth mah-seev esh-maw, ree-gahth-keev-hah d-yai k-rock-mahks-he-een-ahv-ah.)

    KAL SHINTAHR DEVEREAUX TERRAN'HRA: Ri'duls nai, señor. Jaqak nai konis ni'h'indyatahklan ni'hraki'i...
    (Ree-dools nye, seen-your. Jakk-ak nye koh-nees nee-huh'een-d-yah-tahk-lahn nee'hraw-kee-ee...)
    (Something tells me I screwed up the line here somewhere...)

    THRAKHATH RAG'NITHJHAK: Jaqak'ha ta rai va. Ri'nakh'h'asha k'takh...
    (Jakk-ak-hah tah rye vah. Ree-knock-huh-ahs-hah k-tock...)

    THRAKHATH RAG'NITHJHAK: Terran'hra'h'inhadakutshra rakh va mas ni'haj gath gar. Gar'ha thraksiva va anruni, qu gar'nonvrash'ha Kahr'kilinthrak!
    (Tair-ahn-hraw-he-een-hah-dah-koot-shrah rock vah mahs nee-hahj gahth gar. Gar-hah thrack-see-vah vah ahn-roo-nee, koo gar-nohn-vrahsh-hah Car-keel-een-thrack!)
     
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    Stellar work as always. I like the Kilrathi standardization of Angel's rank too ;)

    Ok, give me a week or so, and we'll have an interesting project. Many, many thanks - especially for for the phonetic pronunciationsof everything, this will help me immeasurably!
     
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    [​IMG]

    Videopad, Audacity, Notepad and Zerius Vocoder all in action.

    Also, that Lion Vocoder tip seems to work neatly, I've not considered that approach before.
     
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    Uh... so in the end, you chose neither to translate, nor to stick with the original "monsieur", but instead went... Spanish? Why? :)
     
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    I assumed it was either a geunine oversight and he meant monsieur, or he was being ironic after all the talk of leaving the word in there :)
     
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    Twas the latter, done completely on purpose. I've said it before and I'll say it again - we really need a devil's horns emoticon on these forums... :D:D:D

    Probably goes without saying - you should use 'monsieur' for the final version.
     
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    Ok. Only because I said I would. Put the literal translation beside the phrases the first time the phrase appears in the song...and as I said elsewhere, it's pretty repetitive overall. Anyways...




    "JAQ'UL"

    ("THE AWAKENING")

    ras
    (by)

    DAS ICH AHN TERRAN'HRA (AHN MAS NAI)
    (Das Ich)

    ♫ Siva'h'asjaq erg inrathrak (A warrior shall come among the deepest)
    Karav dya du'eshkn'esh (A light to carry during nighttime)
    Ni'ha rashthrak ta lan (I am hoping for area/location)
    Ni'ha rashthrak ta esh (I am hoping for time)
    Ni'ha rashthrak ta lan
    Ni'ha rashthrak ta esh


    Ni'ha lanma eshma, dukutav kesthai oktoga ♫ (I am here now, apart 262,144 years)
    Karav dya du'eshkn'esh
    Ni'ha rashthrak ta lan

    Ni'ha rashthrak ta esh

    Ni'ha rashthrak ta lan

    Ni'ha rashthrak ta esh

    Ni'ha rashthrak ta lan

    Ni'ha rashthrak ta esh


    Ni'ha siva! ♫ (I am the warrior)
    Jaq'ul, jaq'ul ♫ (become awake, become awake)
    Jaq talan ta ♫ (to come away for)
    Jaq'ul, jaq'ul
    Ni'ha siva!
    Jaq'ul, jaq'ul
    Rag'nithjaq ♫ (the coming empire)
    Jaq'ul, jaq'ul

    Ni'ha siva!
    Jaq'ul, jaq'ul
    Jaq talan ta
    Jaq'ul, jaq'ul
    Ni'ha siva!
    Jaq'ul, jaq'ul
    Jaq talan ta
    Jaq talan ta

    Siva'h'asjaq, rashthrak takonis ♫ (A warrior shall come, hoping for a motive)
    Dyaleki raji, dakekrg dugu ♫ (Toying with fire, exploding to death)
    Ni'ha rashthrak ta lan
    Ni'ha rashthrak ta esh
    Ni'ha rashthrak ta lan
    Ni'ha rashthrak ta esh

    Ni'ha lanma eshma, dukutav kesthai oktoga
    Karav dya du'eshkn'esh
    Ni'ha rashthrak ta lan

    Ni'ha rashthrak ta esh


    Ni'ha siva!
    Jaq'ul, jaq'ul
    Jaq talan ta
    Jaq'ul, jaq'ul
    Ni'ha siva!
    Jaq'ul, jaq'ul
    Rag'nithjaq
    Jaq'ul, jaq'ul

    Ni'ha siva!
    Jaq'ul, jaq'ul
    Jaq talan ta
    Jaq'ul, jaq'ul

    Ni'ha siva!
    Jaq'ul, jaq'ul
    Jaq talan ta
    Jaq'ul, jaq'ul

    Ni'ha siva!
    Jaq'ul, jaq'ul
    Jaq talan ta
    Jaq'ul, jaq'ul
    Ni'ha siva!
    Jaq'ul, jaq'ul
    Rag'nithjaq
    Jaq'ul, jaq'ul

    Ni'ha siva!

     
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    Felt like mangling some Johnny Cash today. Couldn't remember which song of his they played in the episode "Ray Butts" of SA&B (I want to say it's "Walk the Line", but I'm not sure), so I just picked one of my personal favorites.

    "HUKOR ERGJI"
    ("Ring Of Fire")

    takh yeleshkik ras
    (as sung by)
    JOHNNY CASH TERRAN'HRA

    ledek nisss ras
    (originally written by)
    ANITA CARTER TERRAN'HRA

    ~~~

    Hak'ha huji ♫ (Love is fire thing)
    Maks gar'da hukorji. ♫ (And it make fire circle)
    Dymga'qith ras rashargk'dyak ♫ (Chained by desire untamed)
    Ni'dakekrgavk du hukor ergji. ♫ (I fell to circle of fire)

    (DAR) (twice)

    Ni'dakekrgavk du hukorji ergji, ♫ (I fell to burning circle or fire)
    Ni'nisk talan, talan, talan takh ji'i'nisk gara ♫ (I went down, down, down as fires went greater)
    Maks gar'ji, ji, ji ♫ (And it burn, burn, burn)
    Hukor ergji, hukor ergji. ♫ (Circle of fire, circle of fire)

    Ak'hak'ha aknav, ♫ (Taste of love is sweet)
    Ja'lesh kahri'is takh e'kh. ♫ (When hearts meet like ours)
    Ni'chodyapak hak tarai takhgar ♫ (I felt love for you like child)
    Darga, qu ji'jaq k'dyak. ♫ (Emphasis, but flame became untamed)

    Ni'dakekrgavk du hukorji ergji, ♫
    Ni'nisk talan, talan, talan takh ji'i'nisk gara
    Maks gar'ji, ji, ji
    Hukor ergji, hukor ergji.

    Ni'dakekrgavk du hukorji ergji, ♫
    Ni'nisk talan, talan, talan takh ji'i'nisk gara
    Maks gar'ji, ji, ji
    Hukor ergji, hukor ergji.

    Maks gar'ji, ji, ji
    Hukor ergji, hukor ergji.
    Hukor ergji, hukor ergji. ♫​

    (GU) (end)​
     
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    Hey, sorry if long overdue.. but could you translate "The blood of my enemies" Thrakhath
    probably sings this in the shower.
     
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    Challenge accepted!

    ...hmm. "Asgard" might be tricky. Not impossible, just tricky.
     
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    I'm pretty sure the Kilrathy have something similar to Valhalla, Sivar has to hang out somewhere...
     
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    Oh, no doubt...I think it's fa'ka'tra, unless I'm mistaken (could just be a general term for "afterlife", but the Cat who uses the term is asking his compatriots who wants to go meet Sivar at the time, so that could be interpreted as a Valhalla-esque equivalent).
     

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