Miscellaneous Privateer stuff Q's

I must say that I did not know it was a new fighter but if you read my post about the WC III engine....
Also that fighter could have a problem of some sort that made the Kilrathi send it to back water posts.
 
I have read but is hard to believe, if the dralthi in his fourth version don´t seem like the first, maybe some class of refit can do to the gothri like the dralthi, the gothri looks fast for his times and with good weapons.
 
Not necessarily. Just 'cos you CAN upgrade something doesn't mean that you SHOULD.

I can't speak for the Kilrathi, but Terran (both 'real' and WC) fighters are generally made by different, competing companies. Once a contract to build fighters is awarded, the design companies do not sit idle. The company that is awarded the contract works to improve its model (the Supermarine Spitfire went through about 16 varients over its production life), or even looks to design a new ship from scratch. The competing companies also look to improve, or build new designs in the hope of getting a contract.

The Dralthi goes through several significant design changes through its life span. Clearly its designers are constantly at work upgrading the model. Each upgrade is sufficient improvement to defeat rival products.

The Gothri doesn't suffer such good fortune. Obviously its 'upgraded' design was not good enough to defeat the new Vaktoth. Production of Gothris stops and the Vaktoth becomes the new frontline fighter. Surviving Gothris are replaced at the frontline and sent to backwater sectors like Gemini.
 
Azrael: your argument is perfectly sound, especially considering the fundamental shift in ship technology between wc2 and wc3, its just like the change from the prop to the jet age, alot of planes are left in the dust and just can't be made to work in the new climate.
 
But, thanks to the novels, we know that earlier ships *do* still exist in WC3, and thanks to WCA we know that WC3 ships existed in WC1/2.
 
LOAF, other than the Hellcat in the first episode of WCATV and a longbow acting as SaR when do we see wc3 ships around. The hellcat can just be explained as being Hellcat 1s and then the Hellcats we get in WC3/IV are a much newer version serving as a testiment to the adaptability of the hellcat
 
No, the Hellcat I would be an entirely different ship -- the numeral designation is for entirely new designs. The variant (A, B, C, etc.) is what would be different.

The Hellcat appears in the first and last episodes of WCA, an Arrow appears in the first episode, a Longbow appears in an episode -- as does an Avenger.

That's three out of five WC3 ships -- and we know that the Thunderbolt entered service in 2668 (WC3 novel and WC3 Authorized Guide) (Of course, the Excalibur is new).

We also know that *all* the ships still in service as of WC2 show up in the WC3 era and beyond -- indicating that the 'new wave' of ships is almost entirely upgraded versions of older designs.
 
In Red and Blue in Maniac and Mavricks initial simulator run on the cat carrier they are flying things that look alot like hellcats to me. and the Avenger was there as a shuttle so perhaps the BW converted the old shuttles into new bombers.
 
There's also a statue of a Hellcat at the Academy, and Hellcat-debris floating around in the last episode.
 
Refitted Hornets appear in the service of the Free Republic of the Landreich in the novel False Colors, circa 2671.
 
Okay, just a few possible explanations & ideas.

The number after the name, e.g. Thunderbolt VII, tends to mark an entirely different craft. The Thunderbolt I would be the American WWII fighter (P40?), the Thunderbolt II is the current A-10. The first Hellcat would be the F6F.
Different variations of the model, retain the same name, so the WCA Hellcat would have the same base designation in the WC3/4. The version is likely to be quite different. These can be designated by letter (thanks LOAF) as with the current US fighters, or other ways (Mk I, II etc.).


Just because we don't get to fly ships until a certain date doesn't mean they don't exist earlier. Also, just because we don't get to fly a ship after a certain date doesn't mean that it has gone completely out of production. Any given airframe will progress through several different variants in its lifespan, each with improved engines, weapons etc. There will naturally be a limit to how far you can push the model, however it is generally cheaper and easier to upgrade an existing model then start from scratch (only minor changes need to be made to the production line). An airframe will not be scrapped entirely until that limit is reached. Even once an air frame is 'superceded', some manufacturing may progress for use by militia and in backwater regions.

As I mentioned in one of my earlier posts, often rival companies will produce similar products. There is nothing that says only one light fighter, med. fighter etc. can exist at the one time. The Arrow/Hornet, Scimitar/Hellcat could easily be competing airframes available at the same time. Which you get to fly will depend on any number of reasons, which include in no particular order :

1. Which variant is better at the time.
An airframe may fall out of favor for a while, only to be given a resurgence by a new engine, shield generator etc.

2. Location.
Companies (and their airframes) may be more prevelent in certain sectors. e.g. despite being allies, the Germans/Japanese and US/British used entirely different aircraft in WWII.

3. Suitability.
Some aircraft may be unsuitable for use in some situations e.g. small carriers, or, for that matter, any carrier at all. The Hellcat is one of the few fighters that can be used in atmosphere. Perhaps it was originally designed as a planet/station based fighter, with only later varients modified for carrier use.
 
Speaking of WCA fighters, LOAF, have you been able to figure out what the fighters flown by Blair and Maniac during Invisible Enemy are? The ones they hide inside the destroyed freighter, that is.
 
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