Hha'ifra

Yeah, I liked it a great deal too... it was very disappointing that we never got to see it in battle and, well, kill it.
 
The plan, IIRC, was to have it at the end of WC2 (in either 'ending' sequence)... which is why your Sabre gets six torpedoes. No idea why that didn't pan out.
 
Originally posted by BadNacho
Whatwas the Hha'ifra? Was it that ship they always showed in cutscenes with Thrakkath and Khasra?
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Yup. Looks like a Ralatha... only different!
 
Actually, I thought it was the Hha'ifra leading the Kilrathi assault on the Gwynedd system on the alternative path. After all, Thrakkath is there and all. I have nothing to back this up, it's only the impression I have.

It would make sense, since it would be a major blow on the enemy.

K'tithrak Mang -> Enigma Sector Command
Gwynedd -> Thrakkath's Flagship

And WC2 is one rare game (the only one?) where the last "losing" path can still lead to victory. This way, the Hha'ifra would be a sort of mobile Kilrathi target that would substitute the K'tithrak Mang base and enable confed to win even on the defense.
 
It was just a Ralatha. The game didn't have the 'sprite' version of the Hha'ifra, and it was cut from those missions.
 
That was one good loking ship indeed, I thought nobody else liked it :)
Are there any pictures of it anywhere other than the WC2 fly by cutscene? I could probably make a model of it if I had some pics, and throw it in as an easter egg in Standoff or something.

--Eder
 
What were its specs?

Do you have any idea on it's capabilities?

-Concordia
P.S. Almost seems like how the Austin was taken from a scaled up Confed Destroyer, and the Ralatha was a scaled up Kilrathi Destroyer... I wonder if this was just a coincidence...
 
re-using proven designs? probably not a coincidence. just look and the Ranger Class and the Concordia Class
 
Originally posted by Bandit LOAF
It was just a Ralatha. The game didn't have the 'sprite' version of the Hha'ifra, and it was cut from those missions.
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Cut? Were there plans to have the Hha'ifra featured in a mission originally?
 
Originally posted by Delance
Cut? Were there plans to have the Hha'ifra featured in a mission originally?
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Yes... read back in the thread... the plan was to have the Hha'ifra be in the two ending missions of WC2... that's why the Sabre gets so many torpedoes (you'd attack K'Mang and the H'ha ifra or the battle fleet and the H'hra Ifra)...
 
Originally posted by Bandit LOAF
Yes... read back in the thread... the plan was to have the Hha'ifra be in the two ending missions of WC2... that's why the Sabre gets so many torpedoes (you'd attack K'Mang and the H'ha ifra or the battle fleet and the H'hra Ifra)...
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Aha! So it did make sense to think it was the Hha'ifra on that mission, at least at the time. :) After all, there's nothing in the game that suggests it is or isn't the Hha'ifra, besides the different sprite.
 
LOAF, you mentioned in the past having the original models for various WC stuff... would that include the Hha'ifra and/or the Rigakh-class? If so, would it be possible for you to make a bunch of reference renders?
 
Originally posted by Bandit LOAF
The plan, IIRC, was to have it at the end of WC2 (in either 'ending' sequence)... which is why your Sabre gets six torpedoes. No idea why that didn't pan out.
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Maybe it was too similar to the Sivar. The games I've found have prided themselves on originality. Like, WC1: Blow up the space station, SM1: Hunt down the Sivar, SM2: Peace treaty with the Firekkan, WC2: Expose traitor, SO1: Fight off Kilrathi with defectors (I think), SO2: Mandarin hunting, WC3: Blair blows up that big ugly round thing (Kilrah) in a scene straight out of Star Wars, WC4: Blair defeats Tolwyn in a political duel, WCP: Blair is MIA and Casey takes over the mantel as Confed's ace of aces. Could be that they didn't want to have the Hha'ifra being the ship the Kilrathi use to rule the universe like they did with the Sivar. That, and maybe they got complaint on the lose SM1 ending being too scary and so they scrapped plans for a sequel.
 
Originally posted by Needaham45
And what's a Rigakh-class?
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From what I can tell, the only mention or appearance of the Rigakh class comes from The Kilrathi Sketch Book, which is a part of the calendar that comes with The Kilrathi Saga, which I am looking at right now. It appears to be a type of cruiser or destroyer. It's very similar in appearance to a Ralatha.
 
Originally posted by Phillip Tanaka
Maybe it was too similar to the Sivar. The games I've found have prided themselves on originality. Like, WC1: Blow up the space station, SM1: Hunt down the Sivar, SM2: Peace treaty with the Firekkan, WC2: Expose traitor, SO1: Fight off Kilrathi with defectors (I think), SO2: Mandarin hunting, WC3: Blair blows up that big ugly round thing (Kilrah) in a scene straight out of Star Wars, WC4: Blair defeats Tolwyn in a political duel, WCP: Blair is MIA and Casey takes over the mantel as Confed's ace of aces. Could be that they didn't want to have the Hha'ifra being the ship the Kilrathi use to rule the universe like they did with the Sivar. That, and maybe they got complaint on the lose SM1 ending being too scary and so they scrapped plans for a sequel.
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You're really pushing it. WC2's ultimately ending, without the Hha'ifra, was "Blow up the space station" just like WC1.
 
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