Command Crew of Capital Ships

Dahan

Dahan

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Is there a list or reference of the Command Crew of the capital ships
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TCS Tiger's Claw (Wing Co 1 game)
Captain Thorn - Commanding Officer (is that correct and how long was he command)
Colonel Halcyon - Wing Commander
Shotglass - Bartender

Commodore Geoffery Tolwyn - Commanding Officer of Tiger's Claw (WCA - TV)

TCS Concordia (Wing Co 2)
Admiral Geoffery Tolwyn - Commanding Officer
Colonel Jeannette 'Angel' Devereaux - Wing Commander
Major Edmond - Chief Communications Officer
Chief Petty Officer Janet 'Sparks' MCullough - hazy about her position

TCS Victory (Wing Co. 3)
Captain William Eisen - Commanding Officer
Colonel Christopher 'Maverick' Blair - Wing Commander
Commander/Colonel Ralgha 'Hobbes' nar Hhallas - Executive Officer to Wing Commander (WC3-novel) and briefly TCS Victory executive officer
Lieutenant Rollins - Chief Communication Officer
Chief Petty Officer Rachel Coriolis - Chief Technician (what was her role in WC3/Prophecy)

TCS Conventry
Captain Jason 'Bear' Bonderevsky - Commanding Officer


UBW Intrepid (Wing Co.4)
Vice-Admiral Daniel Wilford - Chief of Union of Border Worlds Navy (not sure)
Captain William Eisen - Commanding Officer
Colonel Christopher Blair - Wing Commander
Chief Tech 'Pliers' Sykes - Chief Technician/??

TCS Lexington (Wing Co.4)
Captain William Eisen - > Captain Paulson - Commanding Officer
Colonel Blair - Wing Commander

TCS Midway (Wing Co. Prophecy)
Captain (Admiral) Wilford - Commanding Officer
Commander Drake - Commander Air Group (CAG)/Wing Commander
Master Chief Petty Officer - Ships Chief Technician/?
Lieutenant Commander Aurora Finley - Science Officer
Colonel Jacob Manley - uncertain -> Tactical Operations Officer

TCS Tiger's Claw (WC movie)
Commodore James 'Paladin' Taggart - Naval Intelligence
Captain Sansky - Commanding Officer
Commander Gerald - Executive Officer
Obuto - Communications Officer (did he have another position??)
Lieutenant Commander 'Angel' Devereaux - Wing Commander


This is only a partial list of what I know but I would like to know if anyone else have or know of names of command officers/crew for teh different ships..
Thanks
 
ops a correction to this one

TCS Lexington (Wing Co.4)
Captain William Eisen - > Captain Paulson - Commanding Officer
Lieutenant Naismith - Communications Officer
Colonel Blair - Wing Commander
 
Dahan said:
TCS Concordia (Wing Co 2)
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Chief Petty Officer Janet 'Sparks' MCullough - hazy about her position...
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IIRC (Though I havent read the novels) she is just a gease monkey ( a mechanic.... although she is one ov my favorite wc2 characters)... not really anything to do with command.
 
It's by no means complete, but here's some corections and additions for your list.

TCS Tiger's Claw
Captains -
Commodore Geoffrey Tolwyn (Pre-Movie)
Captain Lawrence Jay Sansky (Movie)
Commander Paul Gerald (PS)
Captain Thorn (WC)
Commodore Geoffrey Tolwyn (WC)
Colonel Peter Halcyon (SM)
Captain Thorn (SM2+)
Executive Officers -
Commander Paul Gerald (Movie)
Commander Nelson (WC)
Tactical Officer: Lt. Cmdr. Obutu
Communications Officer: James Zabrowsky
Radar Officer: Falk
Helmsman: Veronica Schultz
Flight Boss: MCPO Raznick
Deck Boss: MCPO G. Peterson
Weapon System Chief Mackey
Spacecraft Ordinance Specialists-
Spaceman Justin Jones
Spaceman David Olivia
Personnel Officer: Lt. Palladino
Chief Technicial: Maya McEdence
Engineers-
Davies
Oxendine
Missile Crews-
Spaceman 2nd Class Miguel Rodriguez
Spaceman Ashley Galaway
Spaceman Tasha Douglas
Wing Commander: Colonel Peter Halcyon
Squadron CO, Killer Bee Squadron: Major James Taggart
Squadron COs, Black Lion Squadron-
Captain Jeanette Devereaux (Movie)
Captain Christopher Blair (WC1+)
Squadron CO, Third Squadron: "Jinxman"
Squadron CO, Fourth Squadron: "Lightning"
Commander, Marine Complement: Lt. Tori Andover
Marines-
Sgt. Gulliver Cogan
Montauk
Tito
Marx

TCS Concordia (III)
Captain: Rear Admiral Geoffrey Tolwyn
Wing Commanders-
Colonel Jeanette Devereaux (WC2)
Colonel Christopher Blair (WC2+)
Communications Officer: Major Edmond
Technician: CPO Janet McCullough

TCS Victory
Captain: Captain William Eisen
Executive Officer: Commander Ralgha nar Hhallas (Pre-WC3)
Wing Commander:
Colonel Dulbrunin (Pre-WC3)
Major Todd Marshall (Pre-WC3)
Colonel Christopher Blair (WC3)
Wing Executive Officer: Colonel Ralgha nar Hhallas
Senior Chief Technician, Gold Squadron: CPO Rachel Coriolis
Communications Officer: 2nd Lt. Ted Rollins

TCS Coventry
Captain: Captain Jason Bondarevsky
Damage Control Officer: Lieutenant Janet McCullough

BWS Intrepid
Captains-
Captain Raoul Dominguez (Pre-WC4)
Captain William Eisen (WC4)
Colonel Christopher Blair (WC4)
Captain Garibaldi (Post-WC4)
Chief Tech: Robert Sykes

TCS Lexington (I)
Captains-
Captain William Eisen (WC4)
Captain Hugh Paulson (WC4)
Wing Commanders-
Lt. Col. Jesse Dunlevy
Colonel Christopher Blair

TCS Midway
Captain: Captain Daniel Wilford
CAG: Commander Patricia Drake
Communications Officer: 1st Lt. Liam Anderson
Wing Commander, Diamondbacks: 1st Lt. Jean Talvert
Wing Commander, Black Windows: Maj. Todd Marshall
Chief Tech: MCPO Rachel Coriolis
Chief Operations Officer, Sciences Division: Lt. Cmdr. Aurora Finley

In answer to your questions, Vice Admiral Daniel Wilford was Commander, Outerworlds Fleet in Wing Commander IV and Captain Thorn commanded the Tiger's Claw for a short period after the movie (replacing Cmdr. Paul Gerald) and then from Secret Missions 2 to the carrier's destruction.
 
Commodore Geoffrey Tolwyn (pre-movie) = WCA?

When did Tolwyn (WC1) command the Claw? Also, does anyone have a distinct timeline for WCA (2653 I think)?
 
Commodore Geoffrey Tolwyn (pre-movie) = WCA?
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No, this is an undetailed event which took place before WCA.

When did Tolwyn (WC1) command the Claw? Also, does anyone have a distinct timeline for WCA (2653 I think)?
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He commanded the Tiger's Claw during WCA, most of which overlaps with the original game. Here's what we know about when the episodes take place:

The first episode of Wing Commander Academy, "Red and Blue", takes place on or around 2654.072-.073 (the story lasts two days and ends with Blair's recieving his orders transfering him to the Tiger's Claw.)

We usually place the second episode, "The Last One Left" within three weeks of this, based on Tolwyn's claim that he also had trouble finding his way around his "first few weeks on a carrier" (on or around 2654.095).

The 'middle' episodes don't have specific dates, and can happen at any free point during Wing Commander I. They include five 'one shot' stories and connecting arcs.

Episodes three through five ("The Most Delicate Instrument", "Lords of the Sky" and "Word of Honor") are each individual stories. Lords of the Sky takes two days.

Two 'sets' of episodes occur in direct succession.

The first set, "Expendable" and "Chain of Command", are about the discovery of a Kilrathi fleet and then the attempt to ambush it.

The second involves "Walking Wounded", "Invisible Enemy" and "Recreation" and follows a Confederation convoy -- the Tiger's Claw rescues it in Walking Wounded, escorts it through Invisible Enemy and drops it off at Oasis in Recreation. Recreation lasts two days.

The eleventh episode, "On Both Your Houses" takes two days and is a stand alone story.

The last two episodes, "The Price of Victory" and "Glory of Sivar" take place around the 2654 Sivar-Eshrad ceremony on Dolos. The episodes last at least two days, which would be 2654.292 to 2654.293.
 
Questions:

Can non-humans command Confed ships?

Hobbes was second-in-command, so was he part of the command crew of the TCS Victory? (People won't fly with a Kilrathi one their Wing, but are OK with a Kilrathi XO)

WC3 makes it looks like as Hobbes was something rare, even WC2 leads us to believe it was fairly common, and the two games are not long apart. But that's a small storyline detail.

Also, we know some Kilrathi ships joined Confed during the war. Well, of course the command crew of those was Kilrathi, but did we see non-humans in confed uniforms as confed ship's command crew?

Last, but not least, did we ever see the WCA Blue People on command positions? Are they presumably human?
 
Delance said:
Questions:

Can non-humans command Confed ships?

Hobbes was second-in-command, so was he part of the command crew of the TCS Victory? (People won't fly with a Kilrathi one their Wing, but are OK with a Kilrathi XO)

WC3 makes it looks like as Hobbes was something rare, even WC2 leads us to believe it was fairly common, and the two games are not long apart. But that's a small storyline detail.

Also, we know some Kilrathi ships joined Confed during the war. Well, of course the command crew of those was Kilrathi, but did we see non-humans in confed uniforms as confed ship's command crew?

Last, but not least, did we ever see the WCA Blue People on command positions? Are they presumably human?
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I always thought the Hobbes situation was somewhat odd. The fear of flying with a Kilrathi on your wing during the war was, in my opinion, totally justified. And as we have seen, Cobra and other's fears were actually confirmed.

To have 'Confed' Kilrathi fighting 'Kilrah' Kilrathi would pose a massive conflict of interest, from a moral and a military intelligence perspective. Also, this could only invite other Kilrathi Intelligence officers to cry 'rogue' and defect.
 
Dragon1 said:
I always thought the Hobbes situation was somewhat odd. The fear of flying with a Kilrathi on your wing during the war was, in my opinion, totally justified. And as we have seen, Cobra and other's fears were actually confirmed.

To have 'Confed' Kilrathi fighting 'Kilrah' Kilrathi would pose a massive conflict of interest, from a moral and a military intelligence perspective. Also, this could only invite other Kilrathi Intelligence officers to cry 'rogue' and defect.
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The problem with this argument is that there was only ever one Hobbes - while at the same time, there had been thousands, maybe even millions of Kilrathi on Ghorah Khar, N'tanya, Shariha and K'arakh. Furthermore, even in human wars, traitors get very little leniency - when you combine this with the way Kilrathi think, you can be pretty certain that any defecting Kilrathi would be 100% reliable... unless of course he was Hobbes.
 
Delance said:
WC3 makes it looks like as Hobbes was something rare, even WC2 leads us to believe it was fairly common
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No it doesn't. There was a lot of talk about rebellion in general, but nothing about common Kilrathi officers in Confed.

Dragon1 said:
To have 'Confed' Kilrathi fighting 'Kilrah' Kilrathi would pose a massive conflict of interest, from a moral and a military intelligence perspective.
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No it wouldn't. Kilrathi love killing other Kilrathi too.
 
ChrisReid said:
No it doesn't. There was a lot of talk about rebellion in general, but nothing about common Kilrathi officers in Confed.
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There were a lot of Kilrathi siding with Confed during WC2. The population of Ghora Khar had the status of citzens of the Confederation. A lot of Kilrathis were with Confed.
 
True, but Hobbes was likely the only Kilrathi defector who was on the command staff of a Confed carrier--remember, if Eisen were put out of action, this would have made Hobbes acting captain of the Victory, and I don't think that even Tolwyn would have felt that the political backlash of putting a Kilrathi in command of a Confederation carrier would be worth it.
 
Delance said:
There were a lot of Kilrathi siding with Confed during WC2. The population of Ghora Khar had the status of citzens of the Confederation. A lot of Kilrathis were with Confed.
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And not a one of them seemed to be in any position like Hobbes. There wasn't anything there to suggest he wasn't a rarity.
 
ChrisReid said:
And not a one of them seemed to be in any position like Hobbes. There wasn't anything there to suggest he wasn't a rarity.
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Actually, there is.

https://www.wcnews.com/guides/so1ghorahkhar1.shtml

Hobbes just returned from his assignment downside on Ghorah Khar --- where he's organizing the resistance and training the rebel leaders. He's returning with a team of young human pilots who will command the Ghorah Khar squadrons. I want them to learn from you... your combat tactics, your style of command. And I want them to learn how to stay alive in combat. This'll be a straightforward mission, a patrol around Olympus Station. Your main objective is to keep these boys alive, Maverick... we need them to lead the resistance. That's more important than any scoring any kills on this mission. Hobbes has already launched... his team will meet you at Nav 1. You'll patrol through Nav 2, and return via Nav 3. Good luck, Maverick. Dismissed.
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Humans with Kilrathi on their wings. Not unlike... Hobbes.

Well, not the same thing, I know, but close. There were human and kilrathi flying side by side on WC2. Those Kilrathi might not be wearing Confed uniforms, but were part of the Confederation.
 
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the way the breifing is phrased can make it sound like the Ghorah Khar squadrons are made of kilrathi with human wingleaders or completely human squadrons.
 
Random question based on the first few posts of the thread:

Is Wilford's first name "Daniel?" In the encyclopedia on the site, it lists his first name as "Eugene." Just wondering if that's something the encyclopedia is off on.

- FireFalcon ~};^
 
the way the breifing is phrased can make it sound like the Ghorah Khar squadrons are made of kilrathi with human wingleaders or completely human squadrons.
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I think the word you would need to imply that would be 'Ghorah Kharran'.

Is Wilford's first name "Daniel?" In the encyclopedia on the site, it lists his first name as "Eugene." Just wondering if that's something the encyclopedia is off on.
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He's credited as Daniel Wilford in Wing Commander IV, the Official Guide to Prophecy calls him Eugene Wilford.
 
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