Wing Commander Saga via Freespace Open

Panther1.0

Ensign
I started playing Saga again via Freespace 2 media VPS, I played it first back in 2012 ,original standalone release.

The game feels somewhat different, maybe better, graphically also, is FSO generally improved or were there some mods done on the game package?

Regards
J
 
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gevatter Lars

Vice Admiral
There where some tests with MP but the game isn't balanced for that and it wasn't an official part of the game.
So if you get it working with a newer VPS let us know.
 

Panther1.0

Ensign
Can someone please direct me to a level guide or missions list of some kind for Saga, I think I'm at level 39, Hyperion 4, flying the Excalibur, I've cloned my pilot(profile) some places in the game to be able to replay certain missions.
 

Deathsnake

Rear Admiral
Some errors with the Freespace Knossos Version

For example the start is auto. You cannot start alone. Some missions are buggy.

But in another terms the Engine uses the later build for effects. See the shield effects here
also Explosions, Wrecks etc look much better. Also the limited ships you can use is in Original just 100. I can just use 15 another ships then it is over. With the Knossos Version i have all my WC ships in the build and Editor (over 190 ships and Stations overall) - I think 300 is the limit in the latest build.
 

Panther1.0

Ensign
Yes I clearly noted the ship explosions and them breaking apart, very nicely done.

I'm at the Temblor bomb missions now, seems impossible to finish, gosh I had 70 kills or so but failed the mission losing some TCS cap ships to Paktahn fighters, just to many coming flying in.
 
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L.I.F.

Vice Admiral
Some errors with the Freespace Knossos Version

For example the start is auto. You cannot start alone. Some missions are buggy.

But in another terms the Engine uses the later build for effects. See the shield effects here
also Explosions, Wrecks etc look much better. Also the limited ships you can use is in Original just 100. I can just use 15 another ships then it is over. With the Knossos Version i have all my WC ships in the build and Editor (over 190 ships and Stations overall) - I think 300 is the limit in the latest build.
Hmm, a Bengal in Saga? I don't remember it being in the game files, any way for me to 'acquire' it for porting elsewhere, if that's OK with the team?
 

gevatter Lars

Vice Admiral
I have just tried to play Saga via the Knossus installer and at the second missions of the prologue I ran into a problem.
The Demon fighters where spawning to far away, so far that even with infinit radar range I couldn't see them and my wingman where even drawing them away even further.
Another time they spawned far away but suddenly jumped right over the freighter I had to escort and I emidiatly failed the mission because I was flying toward them and where now to far out.

I suspect that since that version of Saga has be automaticly converted by a script rather then by hand that something went wrong. Don't know if there are any other mission that have that kinds of problems since I can't manage to get past the second one because there are no enemys.

Also is the game easier now or is it just my impression? Man I have to dig up the original version to compare it.

On the side note, yes its definitly nice to look at. I like the selfshadowing option they have now.
 

tarsus

1st Lieutenant
The game is a bit easier due to tweaking. I.E. save points at the middle of a mission. I never had issues with Saga on knossos, except for landing on ships messes up the cameras and that roofie joke aged really poorly.
 

tarsus

1st Lieutenant
> I have just tried to play Saga via the Knossus installer and at the second missions of the prologue I ran into a problem.
The Demon fighters where spawning to far away, so far that even with infinit radar range I couldn't see them and my wingman where even drawing them away even further.

The demons spawned on my machine at 70000k and burned in very fast.

There is an option, if you have an older graphics card, there are some issues with the display in fs2open. Anything based on pitcairn (radeon hd 7700+) or geforce 400+ should be fine though.
 

Panther1.0

Ensign
interesting, I will check that out, I did not play prologue via Knossos as yet, started straight away with 'the Darkest Dawn'

how many levels with prologue ? I think it was just a few.
 

gevatter Lars

Vice Admiral
@tarsus
The thing is it wasn't allways happening. I started the mission about 10 times, I think it was, to see if its a regular thing and after the first day, the second day I had no problems. Anyway so far I had no other problems with the Knossos build.

@Panther1.0
Yes its only a few missions.
 

tarsus

1st Lieutenant
The thing is it wasn't allways happening. I started the mission about 10 times, I think it was, to see if its a regular thing and after the first day, the second day I had no problems. Anyway so far I had no other problems with the Knossos build.
I will try again... that's interesting.

There is also the issue that camera placing is sometimes wonky during the landing sequences. Not a game breaker but not fun.
 

gevatter Lars

Vice Admiral
My guess would be that something was still in the memorie or some other hickup thats was caused by me running different FSO ports one after the other. I started FS1, FS2 and WCS after one another.

PS: FS1 port looks good. I think I will put FS on my "next to play" list too. Also damn for just about 9 GB I have 4 full games while the other two I have take 9GB and 50GB alone.
 
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