Who outranks who?

[Bandit LOAF]

I wonder if he decide to set the pay record straight too, given the difference between Captain and Colonel

The Wing Commander I/II guide does say that LaFong expects to take a nice vacation with the years of back-pay owed him because of the difference in rank. (And that was the LAST WE EVER SAW OF HIM.)

Well technically that did happen. Blair was transferred into Covert ops while Angel stayed on the Concordia. The question is, when did Angel get transferred into Covert? Wasn't Blair Wing Commander aboard the Concordia during the early stages of the Battle of Terra? That would imply that Angel was transferred out and I thought she was transferred to the Lexington for her mission... however the Concordia class Lex hadn't even been destroyed yet.

The Wing Commander III novelization says that Blair was offered the Wing Commander position on the Concordia when Angel transferred to Covert Ops and that all of this happened before the Battle of Earth... so, soon after Special Operations 2 (the novel actually says Blair was Wing Commander of the Concordia for three years, which... doesn't... quite... fit).

On a side note, for some reason I have the memory that Blair was promoted to full Colonel after the end of SM2 off-screen. But I don't think that's correct...

That's a common assumption. Halcyon promises you his job but doesn't actually promote you to Colonel.

I think that figuring out Blair's proper rank at the end of Secret Missions 2 is nigh-impossible.

- The Kilrathi Saga manual article on his arrest calls him "former Lieutenant Commander Blair", which is either the Navy equivalent of Major... or a case of someone writing 'Commander' instead of 'Colonel'.

- You can be promoted to Lieutenant Colonel in Secret Missions 2 (in fact, try winning /without/ that happening). The WCI/II guide seems to assume that LaFong is a Lt. Colonel... and that he is never promoted to full bird Colonel (even in WC2). Then again, the book doesn't cover the addons or later.

- There's something that calls him Major Blair somewhere, isn't there? I have to look that up...

- There's a reference to his still being a Lieutenant at the start of Secret Missions 2 somewhere. In the WC3 novel, I think.

One carrier (the Claw) isn't a tradition, and he served on other ships like the Formidable, Caernarvon Station and Bonnie Heather up to that point as well.

And the Gilgamesh!

Didn't the Emperor order all the human slaves on Kilrah to be executed during Fleet Action, in a fit of rage due to Jukaga being entirely too human?

Yes and no, I think. The Emperor orders the execution of prisoners and slaves is in the same breath as ordering human planets wiped out with Strontium warheads--I think it's likely the latter which angers Jukaga into disagreeing rather than the former (Jukaga himself had already suggested killing those same prisoners as the Sivar ceremony that year).

I always thought Angel and her team were on Kilrah covertly, god knows how they'd have got down there but during WC3 I could imagine them camped out somewhere on the harsh rocky planes of Kilrah, living out of supplies from a landing craft or something.

According to the Wing Commander III novelization, Angel and friends were captured aboard a "hijacked Imperial transport in orbit around Kilrah itself".

Where did the 'posing as slave theory' come from? Is it mentioned in canon somewhere? or just supposition?

I think it was just AD's theory from earlier in this thread. Probably the strongest argument against it is the fact that they're all still wearing Confederation uniforms during the execution.

I always liked that the 'Intel Inside' card from the CCG was just a woman in a Confed uniform with a gun standing in front of a Kilrathi logo http://ccg.jetlag.us/main.php?g2_itemId=2782 -- good spy work, there. (Also, doesn't Angel have a 'Covert Ops' t-shirt in her holomail? Or am I dreaming that?)

 

[Sylvester]

I think she's wearing a TCS Concordia shirt in the holo-mail.

 

[ChrisReid]

Either would be quite a fine detail. I don't recall seeing text on it...

 

[AD]

According to the Wing Commander III novelization, Angel and friends were captured aboard a "hijacked Imperial transport in orbit around Kilrah itself".

I think it was just AD's theory from earlier in this thread. Probably the strongest argument against it is the fact that they're all still wearing Confederation uniforms during the execution.

I always liked that the 'Intel Inside' card from the CCG was just a woman in a Confed uniform with a gun standing in front of a Kilrathi logo http://ccg.jetlag.us/main.php?g2_itemId=2782 -- good spy work, there. (Also, doesn't Angel have a 'Covert Ops' t-shirt in her holomail? Or am I dreaming that?)

I'm not so sure I was actually suggesting that it was how they infiltrated Kilrah so much as pointing out that there were possible ways that humans wouldn't necessarily seem out of place on Kilrah without the absurd notion of them mimicking Kilrathi that are much larger in stature than Humans

 

[AD]

I think she's wearing a TCS Concordia shirt in the holo-mail.

If this (below) is the shot we're talking about, then I don't really see how anyone can make it out for sure... but to me, watching the video footage - which looks slightly clearer than the individual still shot - it actually looks like it's just a TCS Victory T-Shirt.

 

[frostytheplebe]

I think she's wearing a TCS Concordia shirt in the holo-mail.

technically, shouldn't she be wearing a TCS Lexington shirt at this point?

 

[ChrisReid]

Then they would have had to make another shirt.

 

[frostytheplebe]

Then they would have had to make another shirt.

God forbid