What's your favorite base of ops?
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) could do the work better, if you want to protect a great weapon you use the best.Minor history Point --
I suspect the TCS VICTORY (my favorite carrier -- it was the most detailed and "seemed" like a ship, rather than two rooms on a set) is named after HMS VICTORY, Admiral Nelson's flagship at the Battle of Trafalgar, 1812, when the British fleet destroyed the French and Spanish Navies off the coast of Spain and saved the UK from an invasion by Napolean. A well-omened name...
Respectfully,
Brian P.
I suspect the TCS VICTORY (my favorite carrier -- it was the most detailed and "seemed" like a ship, rather than two rooms on a set) is named after HMS VICTORY, Admiral Nelson's flagship at the Battle of Trafalgar, 1812, when the British fleet destroyed the French and Spanish Navies off the coast of Spain and saved the UK from an invasion by Napolean. A well-omened name...
Respectfully,
Brian P.
Mekt-Hakkikt
Mpanty's bane
Re: Re: Concordia
That's funny(not really but), I cared for the Victory and her crew (except Hobbes of course) less than for any other carrier and or crew (with the exception of the Lexington in Armada perhaps).
In Wc1 everyone was pleased to meet you and respected your talent. In Wc2 your old friends (and new ones) stood up for you. In Wc3 everyone tells you how to do your job and is disrespectful.
Especially Cobra and Flint
That's funny(not really but), I cared for the Victory and her crew (except Hobbes of course) less than for any other carrier and or crew (with the exception of the Lexington in Armada perhaps).
In Wc1 everyone was pleased to meet you and respected your talent. In Wc2 your old friends (and new ones) stood up for you. In Wc3 everyone tells you how to do your job and is disrespectful.
Especially Cobra and Flint
Heh.
That reminds me. In the first add-on for WC2, in the mission where Thrakhath escapes (incidentally, I always liked Thrakhath's announced reason for leaving Hobbes alive rather than the one that becomes apparent in WC3), I remember blasting Thrakhath for I don't know how long before he finally managed to jump out (I ignored all of the would-be assassins until he finally left). Too bad. Would have been fun to off the guy.
*grin*
I was always disappointed when the WC2 fights with Thrakhath were never mentioned in WC3.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Concordia
Blair is still incredibly famous by that point, however.
He's the 'Traitor of Ktithrak Mang' (since exonerated)
He's also the 'Hero of Ktithrak Mang' (heh heh)
He's probably notorious for disobeying orders (rescuing Stinger, and torpedoing Ktithrak Mang).
WC3 seems to have toned down some of the recognition that Blair had attached to him in WC2. Seriously, I'd have thought that having Blair sign on would be somewhat similar to having Rickenbacker join a new squadron in WWI.
Blair is still incredibly famous by that point, however.
He's the 'Traitor of Ktithrak Mang' (since exonerated)
He's also the 'Hero of Ktithrak Mang' (heh heh)
He's probably notorious for disobeying orders (rescuing Stinger, and torpedoing Ktithrak Mang).
WC3 seems to have toned down some of the recognition that Blair had attached to him in WC2. Seriously, I'd have thought that having Blair sign on would be somewhat similar to having Rickenbacker join a new squadron in WWI.
Bandit LOAF
Long Live the Confederation!
Blair was very famous before Wing Commander 2 -- he was the Savior of the Vega Sector, the Hero of K'Tithrak Mang and half a dozen other patriotic terms. This clearly did have an effect on the crew of the Victory -- everyone goes on about his reputation and so forth... although I'm sure the crew of the Victory believed he must *not* be as great as he sounds, by virtue of having been reassigned there in the first place.
Blair and Thrakhath's history is mentioned in WC3, IIRC -- "Thrakhath and I have gone a few rounds", "must be like old home week" and "hope for one last encounter with the Heart of the Tiger"...
Blair and Thrakhath's history is mentioned in WC3, IIRC -- "Thrakhath and I have gone a few rounds", "must be like old home week" and "hope for one last encounter with the Heart of the Tiger"...
Battler Hawke
Spaceman
what happens to carriers when he is stationed on them is scary(they get trashed see wc1,3)
IIRC, any ship in a scenario can be flagged as "invulnerable" by the mission designer so as to avoid embarrassing moments or severe plot deviations (for example, the Devil Ray that kidnaps a Main Character in WCP --
it's a serious plot point. Allowing the player to rescue the character would require an entirely different -- and less interesting -- game branch, which is expensive with FMV).
IIRC, this is true of all Wing Commander games.
Respectfully,
Brian P.
Victory's History
The Victory *lost* Locanda IV? That's the one with the bio-tipped warhead threat, right? Oh no!
If Locanda was lost, how could Blair have recovered from that failure? Also, how did Flint take it (it was her home system, right)!?
Concordia still rocks. It was such a proud ship. I felt so bad seeing it burning on Vespus' "Minstrel Coast."
The Victory *lost* Locanda IV? That's the one with the bio-tipped warhead threat, right? Oh no!
If Locanda was lost, how could Blair have recovered from that failure? Also, how did Flint take it (it was her home system, right)!?
Concordia still rocks. It was such a proud ship. I felt so bad seeing it burning on Vespus' "Minstrel Coast."
Wulf
Vice Admiral
Re: Victory's History
Victory's failure at Locanda is in detail from the novel of WC3....
Originally posted by Col.Dom
The Victory *lost* Locanda IV? That's the one with the bio-tipped warhead threat, right? Oh no!
If Locanda was lost, how could Blair have recovered from that failure? Also, how did Flint take it (it was her home system, right)!?
Concordia still rocks. It was such a proud ship. I felt so bad seeing it burning on Vespus' "Minstrel Coast."
Victory's failure at Locanda is in detail from the novel of WC3....
You know, for such a great pilot & hero, Blair really f***ed up on that one. I don't have the WC3 novel but now I want it... I'm curious as to how Blair could let Locanda get "dusted."
Isn't the fact that billions of people would die horrible deaths be motivation enough to give it his all??
Well... now that I think of it, it makes Flint's AWOL make more sense. Why would she persue her own private war in the system when the Kilrathi have been driven out, victory being all to the, uh, Victory, thus her.
Isn't the fact that billions of people would die horrible deaths be motivation enough to give it his all??
Well... now that I think of it, it makes Flint's AWOL make more sense. Why would she persue her own private war in the system when the Kilrathi have been driven out, victory being all to the, uh, Victory, thus her.
Mekt-Hakkikt
Mpanty's bane
Blair's squadron got attacked by two wings of Strakhas and thus lost valuable time in the pursuit of the missiles. Though he hadn't much of a chance in the novel.
Really?
Hmm.
Saving Locanda was extremely simple in the game. Oh well. I've said my piece about the novels elsewhere.
As for Flint going AWOL, who wouldn't be seriously tempted to consider doing the same if someone tried to nuke their home? Using a present day example, even if the planes had been stopped before they hit the WTC and the Pentagon, I think most Americans would have a difficult time 'standing idly by' while an Al Qaeda convoy was leaving unmolested just a short distance away, particularly if loved ones worked at the targeted buildings.
Hmm.
Saving Locanda was extremely simple in the game. Oh well. I've said my piece about the novels elsewhere.
As for Flint going AWOL, who wouldn't be seriously tempted to consider doing the same if someone tried to nuke their home? Using a present day example, even if the planes had been stopped before they hit the WTC and the Pentagon, I think most Americans would have a difficult time 'standing idly by' while an Al Qaeda convoy was leaving unmolested just a short distance away, particularly if loved ones worked at the targeted buildings.
Excellent point, junior.
As for having two wings of Strakhas on their back....
I mean, yeah there's self-preservation but wouldn't one put duty and loyalty before themselves and risk their life to stop the missiles, despite constant badgering? Like one of our Air Force Core Values "Service Before Self."
Heh- those stealth fighters are a real tumor in Blair's career, though, huh....
As for having two wings of Strakhas on their back....
I mean, yeah there's self-preservation but wouldn't one put duty and loyalty before themselves and risk their life to stop the missiles, despite constant badgering? Like one of our Air Force Core Values "Service Before Self."
Heh- those stealth fighters are a real tumor in Blair's career, though, huh....