WC4 nitpicks

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Amerika

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In the last mission of WC4 when you face Seether he's wearing a standard Confed helmet and flightsuit in the comm window, but when you see him on the bridge of the Vesuvius just beforehand he is holding one of the Dragon ones from the opening and wearing a different suit. Has anyone else found such oddities?
 
I did notice that.

I also noticed that when you're talking to Pliers when you return from Axius and talk about the flashpack with him. When he tells you he could rig up more in a week or two and you say there's no time for that. He like sighs and then goes to climb the ladder. So the camera goes away and right as he starts climbing it, he just comes right back down as if he thought the camera wasn't watching him anymore.

Now that's nitpicky.

And how come in the intro when you Maniac is like, "Oh is he gone? Yeah come on...come on pal." I thought that part sounded all weird like it was cutting in and out or something.
 
I found a continuity error in WC4.

Notice there is a scene on that Border Worlds planet where Blair lands with Dekker's commando party. The doctor tells him that the virus looks for things like poor eyesight, etc.

Sometime later, when Blair enters the Black Lance base, notice that man in the black lance uniform checking ordinances (the one that Blair attacks and steals his uniform). Notice this Black Lance guy is wearing eyeglasses! Technically, he shouldn't have been able to quality for the Black Lance forces, since his poor eyesight would make him "inferior" in their eyes, and suseptible to the virus.
 
Perhaps...

But you see, that guy was a genetically engineered nerd. That's why they put him in charge of inventory. The glasses projected a kind of HUD that helped him keep track of all those canisters and disks. Seemless eh?
 
Shipgate said:
I also noticed that when you're talking to Pliers when you return from Axius and talk about the flashpack with him. When he tells you he could rig up more in a week or two and you say there's no time for that. He like sighs and then goes to climb the ladder. So the camera goes away and right as he starts climbing it, he just comes right back down as if he thought the camera wasn't watching him anymore.
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Could be he's just absent minded and really should have been put out to pasture years ago.

Speaking of the flashpack though, didn't it seem just a little bit too light, with Pliers able to pick it up like he did and toss it on the floor.
 
Lots of factors make this very old nitpick fairly irrelevant.

First, the doctor doesn't say what the nanoprobes are targetting. He says the technology *could* be used to target things like eyesight, body fat, etc. He doesn't actually know.

Second, the worker on the Axius base wasn't necessarily exposed to the nanoprobes or even familiar with the conspiracy. The crew of the Lexington and the Princeton were unknowing patsies... it's equally possible that the crew of an existing black ops base (per the WCIV novel) were similarly duped.

Third, problems with eyesight aren't necessarily genetic. He could have suffered physical damage to his eyes or he may wear glasses for purely stylistic reasons.
 
Bandit LOAF said:
Second, the worker on the Axius base wasn't necessarily exposed to the nanoprobes or even familiar with the conspiracy. The crew of the Lexington and the Princeton were unknowing patsies... it's equally possible that the crew of an existing black ops base (per the WCIV novel) were similarly duped.
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Tolwyn talks about the bioweapon in his speech to the Black Lance on Axius base, that's how Blair learned it's name was "GenSelect." I'm pretty sure the actual BL troops know about the conspiracy, it's just Confed and the Assembly that are duped. Plus Dervish, no one "qualifies" to join BL they're all products of the Genetic Enhancement program whom Tolwyn took under his wing and from whom formed the Lance.
 
The game didn't mention anything about Blair and company going through any kind of quarantine procedure before returning to the Intrepid. You would think they would have infected the rest of the crew with nanoprobes.
 
McGruff, you actually have a point there... but I'll have to play through again to make sure it wasnt just something they left out. (After all, in WCP every mission ends up with you going into decontamination)
 
Manic said:
McGruff, you actually have a point there... but I'll have to play through again to make sure it wasnt just something they left out. (After all, in WCP every mission ends up with you going into decontamination)
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I'm pretty sure thats just a lift to another area of the Midway :).

C-ya
 
If I recall correctly, the doc on the planet said the nanoprobes are only active for so long (or that's the implication, at least.) It makes sense, given how tiny they'd be... they couldn't have that much of an energy reserve...
 
Good point. Come to think of it, the nanoprobes could not really be considered a bioweapon at all because they are mechanical, not biological.
 
Amerika said:
Plus Dervish, no one "qualifies" to join BL they're all products of the Genetic Enhancement program whom Tolwyn took under his wing and from whom formed the Lance.
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Actually, the entire point of the Genetic Enhancement program was to have a superior strain of human beings acting in a military capacity. In addition to being products of the GE program, they would also have to undergo screening to be "qualified" for service in the BL. You can't assume that they would have a 100% effective production success rate, there would have to be products (minority) that were judged unworthy and subsequently discarded.

That being said, the glasses worn by the tech did not look "stylish", they looked like typical perscription eyeglasses, and assuming arguendo that people in the 27th century liked to wear eyeglasses that looked like perscription glasses but really weren't (that, and plaid pants and rainbow suspenders), I doubt that in division as intense as the BL would allow such things while on duty.

The most effective argument would be to state that the tech had damaged his eyesight, and the BL gave him a dreary, menial assignment unrelated to direct combat.
 
Tolwyn talks about the bioweapon in his speech to the Black Lance on Axius base, that's how Blair learned it's name was "GenSelect." I'm pretty sure the actual BL troops know about the conspiracy, it's just Confed and the Assembly that are duped.
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Tolwyn's speech was just for the bases pilots. Certainly a single briefing on a base that dwarfed the Vesuv is (population 7,800) can't indicate that anything said is common knowledge. (I mean, even a regular ship will have plenty of classified briefings...)

Plus Dervish, no one "qualifies" to join BL they're all products of the Genetic Enhancement program whom Tolwyn took under his wing and from whom formed the Lance.
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Sure they do - WCIV was full of the project recruiting or trying to recruit important members (Paulson, Eisen, Blair, etc.)

The game didn't mention anything about Blair and company going through any kind of quarantine procedure before returning to the Intrepid.
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Even modern warships have quarantine procedures par the course for landing aircraft as part of their standard operations.
 
Bandit LOAF said:
Tolwyn's speech was just for the bases pilots. Certainly a single briefing on a base that dwarfed the Vesuv is (population 7,800) can't indicate that anything said is common knowledge. (I mean, even a regular ship will have plenty of classified briefings...)
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The guy with the glasses is taking inventory in the hanger in which Blair finds numerous cases of the nanoweapon, something about it must be common knowledge since it's just lying around where anyone can see it.


Bandit LOAF said:
Sure they do - WCIV was full of the project recruiting or trying to recruit important members (Paulson, Eisen, Blair, etc.)
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I somehow doubt Tolwyn wanted to completely integrate Blair into the Lance but rather just use him as a pawn, he may have planned for him to be killed since he doesn't even back him up when the Lexington and Intrepid fight and he is forced to defect (not to mention he put a clown like Paulson in command of him to begin with). And Paulson had orders from Tolwyn to take Eisen into custody (and probably kill him) since he had been spying on Confed activity, not recruit him. Paulson himself though a part of the conspiracy in Confed was just an expendable pawn who probably got nowhere near a Black Lance installation, and was killed after his ship was destroyed.
 
According to the novel, Eisen and Blair were both posted to the Lexington in the first place because Tolwyn believed they could be recruited to support the project. Paulson was sent in only after it became clear that that wouldn't work.
 
The hanger bay was most likely secured or guarded. At least, it should have been, so while the tech knew, not everyone would have access.
 
Plus, as I recall, didn't Paulson have a "come to Jesus" meeting with either Blair or Eisen in the novel?

Which, if you were paying attention, clearly gave away who the Black Lance boss was. Even though I read the novel after playing the game, that made it oh-so obvious, and I liked it.
 
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