Wc3 Glitches

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StarLight

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I'm just wondering whether anybody else has run into some funny (as in weird Earthworm) stuff in wc3...

for example - when flash is challenging blair as goes "get you to shine my shoes, but i like my shoes too much" the subtitles say "get you to shoe my shine"

you go rescue flint in loconda, and cobra gets the credit for it...or you rescue flint u get the credit then the cd jumps and then cobra's there getting the credit...

the resurrecting stalker in the final mission...

ummm...i think there is a time when there is a frigate nearby the victory and if u blow it up it goes "my clan shall avenge me" like a kilrathi destroyer

if u die on a planet, u restart at the planet and if u had taken damage or used missiles, the whole entire ship's stats have been restarted so that it is a clean ship

can't think of anything else but i'm sure there's more out there
 
in the final mission theres a capship that dies as soon you enter it's nav point..

and kilrah looks like a moon base :p

[Edited by Kain on 12-30-2000 at 02:13]
 
Pah, that's an old one, SW. 'Tis a really freaky bug which seems to give Thrak a different face every time.
 
Originally posted by StarLight
you go rescue flint in loconda, and cobra gets the credit for it...
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Maybe you're not actually rescuing her? If she ejects, than you failed and Cobra goes after her.

the resurrecting stalker in the final mission...
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Eh, that's not a glitch....
 
Seriously, why does Stalker continually return?

And I've said this before, but the FMV after the Midway shoots the bug fleet, when you see Casey return, the Midway suddenly has no plasma gun. Hmmm, it really was a single-use "fire-and-forget" weapon.
 
Originally posted by Wedge009
Seriously, why does Stalker continually return?
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At that point of the game you're not suposed to have any wingman, so Stalker will pop out untill all of your wingman are dead.

And I've said this before, but the FMV after the Midway shoots the bug fleet, when you see Casey return, the Midway suddenly has no plasma gun. Hmmm, it really was a single-use "fire-and-forget" weapon.
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I don't recall ever seing that, you must have been smoking something at the time...:)
 
But why does it have to be Stalker? He could already be dead at this point you know. Why not an anonymous Strakha? Or why not run through the remaining aces? Well that mightn't work but they could always insert a cutscene where you see your last wingman eject or something, like what happened to Shadow.
 
Originally posted by Earthworm
I don't recall ever seing that, you must have been smoking something at the time...:)
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Blast it, I've checked this several times. You should easily see the plasma gun, or at least a blue glow, but there's nothing there. It happens again when the shockwave hits the shields. There is definitely no plasma gun. Maybe it's you who's been smoking.
 
Hm, interesting... do you have a save game of that mission? If you have it, send it to me if you can, and I'll check it out tomorrow.
 
I know which mission it is...

But I don't exactly feel like replaying the whole game just to check out that little thing.:)
 
has anybody seen the other "glitches"?

the "shoe my shine"

the frigate that blows up like a kilrathi destroyer

the clean ship if u die on a planet

kain: that last mission with the destroyer blowing up...i think i've heard something about that the destroyer at the in that last mission will automatically self destruct IF you have flint as your wing(wo)man
did you?
 
Originally posted by StarLight

the destroyer at the in that last mission will automatically self destruct IF you have flint as your wing(wo)man
did you?
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yep flint was there.
 
just another thing i saw today whilst playing wc3...

the victory seems to enjoy having those destroyer escorts with it, especially when it jumps
but they all seem to play chicken once there is an attack on the victory itself...any particular reason?

and also that i noticed that whilst playing wc3, u jump from one system to another and supposedly maintain some confed order in that system...you would think that there would be other carriers in that system, other than the victory along with its escorts and that blair's sole effort will save loconda or keep the kilrathi in line in orsini or figure out that tomayo (looks like tomato) actually has kitty prescence...
 
StarLight: Defensive missions are more challenging if the Victory's escorts aren't around providing support fire. Still it is less realistic.
There could be other carriers in those systems - we just don't see them. Besides it would be Blair's sole effort that nails the single Skipper in Orsini, destroys the bioweapons in Locanda and with a few wingmen defends Blackmane. Were you expecting major battles? I was under the impression that these were minor systems and the Victory wasn't that important herself. Tolwyn, in reaction to Blair's response to his new assignment, says: "I know she's not what you're quite used to Colonel...The Victory is a fine ship with a LONG history of service to the Confederation..." Blair does say: "She's no Concordia," implying that the Victory doesn't measure up...
 
Uh, Starlight, there weren't that many carriers around at the WC3 time. That's why carriers like the Victory were put into service...

Anyhow, Locanda WAS a major battle, at least in the novel. It included three carriers IIRC (althoug one of them is actually a dreadnought), and few escort ship. Plus, much more Vrag'chath missiles were actually present, and much more Strakhas. Which made the job almost impossible for Blair...(actually, it was impossible, he wasn't able to save it:))
 
i suppose so, and there is also rollins thing about the victory not having been on the offensive and always on the defensive for ages...

but i still don't believe that confed would simply send one carrier to deal with a bioweapon...and especially if the system was fairly important...i mean if the cats are "surrendering" a system, u would think there is something fishy and send more than one carrier...

and yet if the victory wasn't that important, she ended up getting assigned to an offensive with the incursion into the alcor, and then was assigned to the Confed's major effort to win the war outright with the Behemoth...never saw any other carriers there...
and then the victory was assigned with the task to extract severin...however i did see other hellcats on the planet, and can suppose that THERE on that planet was a bit more confed support...
and finally the victory had one of her own pilots assigned to test the T-Bomb and do the final run, although in this case it may have been a case of pilot selection (i wonder who chose blair for that run, coz i'm sure that tolwyn wouldn't have)
 
I just think it was a contrived storyline... that Blair could solely turn the tides in system after system until earth won.

Granted, the war overall wasn't going so well, but I mean, come on. What are the chances that Blair would get the Kilrathi's attention more than Maniac, Iceman or even Cobra? Very minimal, I think. Overall, WC became a game about a guy who wandered onto the emperor's every plot like clockwork and stopped it. And then, in WC3... don't even get me started.

If you wanted to explain it, you could say that Tolwyn had a plan from day one. And he purposely put Blair and the ships he worked on through the stuff they went through to get to Kilrah. But hey, I don't read the novels, so I wouldn't know the full story. Aw well. no skin off my back.
 
Originally posted by StarLight
but i still don't believe that confed would simply send one carrier to deal with a bioweapon...and especially if the system was fairly important...i mean if the cats are "surrendering" a system, u would think there is something fishy and send more than one carrier...
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Uh first, Confed didn't know the cats were planing to drop bioweapons, in fact, they didn't know they would attack at all. Second, Locanda WASN'T important at all. It was a planet that didn't have much of a population or natural resourcess.

she ended up getting assigned to an offensive with the incursion into the alcor,
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What important incursion into alcor was there at the WC3 time?

and then was assigned to the Confed's major effort to win the war outright with the Behemoth...never saw any other carriers there...
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That wasn't because she was special. More like the Navy, or the Belisarius group, not wanting Tolwyn to succede, therefore, not giving him a heavier capship.
and then the victory was assigned with the task to extract severin...however i did see other hellcats on the planet, and can suppose that THERE on that planet was a bit more confed support...
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There was no Confed support on that planet, since it was under Kilrathi control...
and finally the victory had one of her own pilots assigned to test the T-Bomb and do the final run, although in this case it may have been a case of pilot selection (i wonder who chose blair for that run, coz i'm sure that tolwyn wouldn't have)
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The TCS Eagle was the first ship trying to drop the bomb first, even without Confeds permition. Only when they failed and run into the Victory did they transfer their Excals onto the Victory. So Blair wasn't the first choice for that mission.

Additionaly, Tolwyn wouldn't have much say in who flew that mission, there were still people in the military that were higher than him, the T-bomb was a project of the Secret Ops division under Paladin, and Tolwyns carrear has effectively ended for few years after the Behemoth disaster.
 
StarLight: IIRC the cats were withdrawing from Locanda because the system's resources had been depleted & there was nothing worth fighting over left. That's why they made the decision to use the bioweapons - you don't think they'd permanently dust a useful planet do you?

Saturnyne: Why shouldn't Blair gain the emperor's attention? Let's see, Blair has done the following that should get the emperor's attention:
Part of the wing that destroyed the Imperial HQ in Venice, forcing the cats to withdraw their HQ back to Kilrah.
Part of the wing that destroyed the Sivar dreadnought and its secret weapon. This led to the execution of Thrak's father, the emperor's son.
Single handedly destroyed K'Tithrak Mang and shot down Thrak in 1 sortie.
Besides Thrak wanted revenge on Blair, & considering the nature of Kilrathi politics it makes sense for the emperor to be aware of who hates who.

Earthworm: What I don't get is why Tolwyn was so hard hit by the Behemoth disaster. Wasn't it proved that the loss of the Behemoth was due to the actions of a traitor, or at least, the failure of the Victory's fighter wing? I mean Tolwyn did get the Behemoth almost to Kilrah.
 
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