WC IV no escorts
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Bandit LOAF
Long Live the Confederation!
As a fleet carrier rather than some sort of battleship, Vesuvius would certainly be the centerpiece of a battlegroup.
Bob McDob
Better Health Through Less Flavor
Well, when the Iowas were reactivated in the 1980s, they were made centerpieces of "surface battlegroups". I wonder if we'll ever see one of those Action-Stations battlewagons in a similar role?
Of course, it's stupid to leave a fleet carrier unprotected, where they're sitting ducks to any sort of space dust in large enough quantaties, and I find it hard to believe the Lex and Vesuvius had no escorts at ALL. Maybe the engine didn't want to add them in...or maybe they just forgot.
As for fighters, I believe that anything in great enough quantaty poses a threat. Look at the American Sherman tanks. Bad guns, bad armor, just bad compared to their German counterparts (fine examples of German engineering, if I do say so myself), but cheap. And by swarming their enemies in large enough quantaties, they prevailed. If the Border Worlds had enough craft, I think anything was possible.
Of course, the Germans also ran out of gas. And tanks. And people to drive the tanks. Confed had no such problems.
Anyway, I think we need to figure out if we're talking about the game or the book... :|
Originally posted by Bob McDob
Personally, I prefer the ingame explantaions. I think of this as just another example of the arrogance of the Black Lancers. They underestimted the Border Worlders from the start, thinking of them as "mongrels" for the "Master Race" to practice on. As a result, they got their gentically perfect rears handed to them.
Best, Raptor
my two cents is this, tolwyn was an idiot. And no matter what all of you think a carrier cannot sortie alone unless it's commander is a moron. To leave something as important as a fleet carrier (especially the vesuvius, the best in service) ungaurded is an act of arrogance to the point of stupidity, or perhaps stupidity to the point of arrogance, take your pick
Ladiesman^
Spaceman
But in all fairness, Tolywn didn't really expect to do too much fighting with it at the moment. He was in relativly safe space, with the only enemy around was a little Durango.
And someone said it before, but in one of the bad endings, the Vesuvius DOES in fact have escorts..lots of them. I don't know where they were while it was getting it's ass handed to it but they were there...
Ladiesman^
Spaceman
I was always under the impression that he didn't really STEAL it, but he wasn't really supposed to have it. He called in a few favors and they just kinda let it slip.
Bandit LOAF
Long Live the Confederation!
Vesuvius was supposedly off on her first deep space trials -- so, like the Midway, she had no escorts.
Eisen *did* steal the Vesuvius -- his friends informed him as to when it was undergoing its engine trials, and he lead a team to capture it.
Eisen *did* steal the Vesuvius -- his friends informed him as to when it was undergoing its engine trials, and he lead a team to capture it.
Bandit LOAF
Long Live the Confederation!
Eisen just had a skeleton crew (he says so)... the Vesuvius didn't know the MSH was coming because you can't scan through a jump point -- that's why you generally send escort ships ahead of a carrier group when jumping through somewhere.
