well i tried the alternate joystick routines for both games but without effect
and VDMS didn't work either, i just found a gameport emulation in the shortcut from VDMS.
Hmm perhaps my version is too old, which version do you use C.Mac ?
well wc3 and 4 are working pretty well with VDMS, my settings were the same you told me and i'm able to use my old gameport joystick, but my usb-joystick doesn't work, neither with the joy*.map nor the alternate joystick routines.
However the joystick works fine in wc5.