Tranfer of loyalties clue
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Quarto
Unknown Enemy
Dekkar: Well, the point is you shouldn't have really said anything. Though to be fair, it's really just that a lot of people have been doing the nanny routine these past few months, and it finally got to the point where something had to be said - you just happened to be the unlucky one 
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As for Tolwyn, presumably he was hostilised again in WC3 for needs of the storyline. Probably, had they not hostilised him, he wouldn't have appeared at all in WC3 - it's a question of balance. You can't have everybody yelling "We love ya, Blair!"
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.As for Tolwyn, presumably he was hostilised again in WC3 for needs of the storyline. Probably, had they not hostilised him, he wouldn't have appeared at all in WC3 - it's a question of balance. You can't have everybody yelling "We love ya, Blair!"
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TheFraix
Vice Admiral
Guess I'm a littlel late
To Stunner: Actually the transfer of loyalties in WC4 was quite an important matter. In WC3, Tolwyn deliberately transfered Blair to the Victory long before the Behemoth was ready because of these circumstances:
1. Blair was _extremely_ low in morale
2. He needs to get acquainted with the crew and be part of the crew (Never judge a ship by its look or history)
3. Tolwyn needs to get a carrier and its crew ready to escort the Behemoth down towards Kilrah.
Now, in WC4 the circumstances was far different.
- Blair didn't want to be part of any politics or border conflicts, but living in a farm has made him long to fly a fighter in space.
- Blair was manipulated unawarely (attacks at the first mission, destruction of the space station) to see that the Border Worlders being the bad guys.
- Blair's duties onboard the Lexington involved destruction and killing of many human beings, no matter what.
At first, Blair was simply following orders. But there was some inner conflicts because the Confederation Navy he was flying for wasn't holding the same Oath he pledged during the Academy. That's why Blair started to question his orders.
And when he learned the truth, about Seether, GE and stuffs... that's how Blair decided to transfer his loyalties to the Just (meaning like justice, humane) values that were being fought by the Borderworlders.
Blair did what was right, not just what he believed in his mind (because our minds and perceptions which are limited can be _deceiving_) but also his heart.
'The battle is wage not just for the control of the Confederation... but its very soul' (WC4 Trailer narration)
I hope I've enlighten you about the subject you posted.
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If you know the _differences_ between what is Right and Just, and what is Wrong and Corrupted, DO WHAT IS WISE.
To Stunner: Actually the transfer of loyalties in WC4 was quite an important matter. In WC3, Tolwyn deliberately transfered Blair to the Victory long before the Behemoth was ready because of these circumstances:
1. Blair was _extremely_ low in morale
2. He needs to get acquainted with the crew and be part of the crew (Never judge a ship by its look or history)
3. Tolwyn needs to get a carrier and its crew ready to escort the Behemoth down towards Kilrah.
Now, in WC4 the circumstances was far different.
- Blair didn't want to be part of any politics or border conflicts, but living in a farm has made him long to fly a fighter in space.
- Blair was manipulated unawarely (attacks at the first mission, destruction of the space station) to see that the Border Worlders being the bad guys.
- Blair's duties onboard the Lexington involved destruction and killing of many human beings, no matter what.
At first, Blair was simply following orders. But there was some inner conflicts because the Confederation Navy he was flying for wasn't holding the same Oath he pledged during the Academy. That's why Blair started to question his orders.
And when he learned the truth, about Seether, GE and stuffs... that's how Blair decided to transfer his loyalties to the Just (meaning like justice, humane) values that were being fought by the Borderworlders.
Blair did what was right, not just what he believed in his mind (because our minds and perceptions which are limited can be _deceiving_) but also his heart.
'The battle is wage not just for the control of the Confederation... but its very soul' (WC4 Trailer narration)
I hope I've enlighten you about the subject you posted.
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If you know the _differences_ between what is Right and Just, and what is Wrong and Corrupted, DO WHAT IS WISE.
Bandit LOAF
Long Live the Confederation!
Well... in both cases, Tolwyn deliberately assigned Blair somewhere, and in both cases Blair was forced to consider the morality of what he was doing; recall that, in WC3, Confederation High Command did not intend to attack Kilrah with Behemoth... Tolwyn was going against his orders to do this -- in the novel, we see Blair seriously question his orders...
The difference is, of course, that the Behemoth problem dissipated before Blair would have been forced to make a choice...
The difference is, of course, that the Behemoth problem dissipated before Blair would have been forced to make a choice...
Stunner
Rear Admiral
To quarto and the others:
I'm not saying that it's just you do have a valid point though so i did shorten it. End of discussion, not much more if anything needs to be said about it I dont think.
To everyone else:
Thanks for posting very interesting thoughts and comments so far!
I'm not saying that it's just you do have a valid point though so i did shorten it. End of discussion, not much more if anything needs to be said about it I dont think.
To everyone else:
Thanks for posting very interesting thoughts and comments so far!