Torpedoes...

MjavTheGray

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Hello to everyone :)

As usual - a stupid question from Mjav, who's a GM in some RPG, as you do remember :)

What's the size and weight of torpedoe?
The one used by Longbow and Avenger,
and
the one used by Exeters?

Any info would be very welcome
 
Sadly, I do not know about the torpedoes from the Longbow and Avenger but in the novel Fleet Action, they talk about the Mark IV torpedo, carried by a Sabre and it's apparently 10 metres long.

Maybe the Torpedo Weapon Card from the CCG says something but I don't have it with me.
 
as I remember, the loadout terminal in wc4 lists the specifications of weapons (and ships). I think the torpedo was listed as 10 meters long, but I cant remember if thats right
 
What's the size and weight of torpedoe?
The one used by Longbow and Avenger,
and
the one used by Exeters?

The Mark IV torpedo used in Fleet Action was ten meters long. The book also mentions smaller Mark III torpedoes and more advanced Mark V torpedoes.

The Lance torpedo used in Wing Commander III was 3.8 meters long, per the Kilrathi Saga manual.

I don't think the Exeter's specifications ever include torpedoes.
 
Exeter is a destroyer, so it MUST have torpedoe launchers, for why else would it be called so?
It's pityful laser turrets (was there two of them? or three?) sure can't make it a warship.
Besides, somewhere i DID see a torpedoe lauchers mentioned while talking of Exeters...

But anyway - thanks a lot.
So, it's 3.8 and ten meters long.

Thanks again :)

See you and good luck to everyone
 
From the diagram in Claw Marks, the Exeter seems to have a tripe-mount battleship-style heavy turret -- presumably that's its capital weapon.
 
Why is it I always get the feeling that Capships in the WC1 timeline were damn near useless in Capship combat?
 
I don’t think we ever got the see them use their ant-capship weapons. If you were flying a scimitar that got hit by antimatter guns it might make the wc1 ships seem a lot more powerful.
 
Here's a quote from the sorce where Mjav did see torpedoes mentioned:


Confederation Exeter class Destroyer:

One of the earliest classes developed during the Kilrathi war, the Exeter class destroyer first entered service in the middle of the 2640s. The destroyer had a reputation for being a fast and nimble ship which carried a nasty punch for its small size. They were employed in a variety of different roles including acting as fast escorts for fleet carriers and torpedo strikes against Kilrathi capital ships and planetary bases. While an innovated design when first introduced, the Exeter class destroyers are considered completely obsolete and have been replaced by the Gilgamesh starting in the early 2660s. The Gilgamesh class is far faster and heavier armed than the old Exeter class and all surviving Exeter class destroyers have been decommissioned and put into mothball status. As might be expected, a huge number of these destroyers were destroyed during the Kilrathi war and only a handful survived to be put in mothballs. The shielding of these ships is far lighter than in later ships and do not have any anti-matter cannons although the obsolete destroyers carried a respectable number of torpedoes. In addition to the four torpedo tubes, the destroyers mount a capital scale neutron cannon in a triple mount, six heavy laser cannons, and six light point defense lasers. Still, the firepower of the destroyer is more similar to a corvette than a true destroyer.

The Exeter class destroyers were named for geographic regions of Earth. More famous ships of the class include the Texas, Tashkent, India, Zagros, Punjab, Brazil, and Gobi. While most ships only had hanger space for a shuttle, a number of Exeter class destroyers were modified to incorporate a larger hanger bay and flight control equipment with the capacity to carry up to eighteen fighters. One of these was the infamous ship named the Gwenhayar, which was captured by the Kilrathi and then used by them as a "ghost ship" to terrorize unsuspecting Confederation forces. Due to the high losses in escort carriers, there is some pressure in the Confederation to bring back into service some of the remaining converted destroyers to act as convoy escorts and fend off raiders as well as for use in high risk deep strikes in Kilrathi territory. This would allow the escort carriers to be freed up for other missions. Most common fighter compliment was a half squadron of light fighters, a half squadron of medium fighters, and four heavy fighters. Some of the destroyers were decommissioned with fighter groups still embarked and stored in mothball status along with the ships although the fighters are completely obsolete in most cases with Hornet light fighters and Scimitar medium fighters being predominant. Rapier fighters were rarely assigned to the destroyers and most Raptor heavy fighters were pulled off when the ships were decommissioned.



So, everyone thinks this article "must die" ?
 
Tha's poorly researched fanfic.

For instance:

* Gilgamesh-class ships entered service before the early 2660s. Blair himself served aboard the TCS Gilgamesh for a very brief period in 2654.

* There's no single naming convention for Exeters. In addition to locations (Oregon, Carraway, Exeter), we see politicians (Perez de Cuellar, Tryvgie Lie, U Thant), fighting adjectives (Formidable, Vindicator) and just plain 'other' (Mitchell Hammock, Talmud, Johann).

* Hornets were not retired from service after WC1 -- we still see them flying with front line units in '68.

The story it makes up is pretty illogical, too. They retired all the Exeters... in the middle of the war? *Really?*

(It also spells Gwenhyvar incorrectly.)
 
Tha's poorly researched fanfic.

For instance:

* Gilgamesh-class ships entered service before the early 2660s. Blair himself served aboard the TCS Gilgamesh for a very brief period in 2654.

I was wandering where was that mentioned - the wc1/2 strategy guide?

And where did the Exeter "TCS Talmud" was mentioned?
 
From the movie novelization -- it has a scene with Blair reading the Claw Marks magazine from WC1 and thinking about what he's done since he graduated.
 
I dont mean to come off like a dick, but is there anything really useful or truthful on Fleet Tatics?

The site included a disclaimer saying that a certain portion of the data on it is "made-up-fandome" and should not be used to "back-up an argument", sort of speak.

just curious - when had you last check it?
the site is no longer accessible at the present time.
 
Fleet Tactics is a fan site that made some mistakes -- it's not terrible by any means...

it's annoying that it's designed to straight out answer the questions fans wonder about that simply *have* no answer. We wonder about the designations for X, Y and Z ship *because* no one knows... not because we're waiting for something unofficial to decide them.

(My biggest problem with Fleet Tactics isn't that, though -- it's just ordinary sloppy research... making up your own stuff to fill in the gaps is okay, but when it contradicts the 'canon' material, it's just lazy. I sent them a huge list of things to fix right after the site launched, and haven't seen any changes.)

All that said, I don't know that this Exeter material is from Fleet Tactics (no one else mentioned the site).
 
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