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BlackJack2063

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Hey all!!

As some of you might remember I was working on a WC RPG, using the D20 system, I have it pretty much done and am now hashing out generational conflicts between the two games.

In WC3 and 4, do torpedoes still slice through shielding like in WC2, or do they do shield damage first. The same question for AMGs.

LOAF or someone else in the know, do guys have commisioning and retiring dates for the WC craft, Confed and Kilrathi?

I have not decided on how to do shielding differences between WC2 and WC3, in case pilots or ships come into conflict with obsolete vessels. I know that phase shielding isn't as effective. that sort of thing.

And for Electronic warfare, were there any SWACS birds in operation during WC1-WC4. I am considering to have jamming knock out targeting computers and radar, and long distance communications like in WC4. The only problem I am having with ECM, is jamming missiles and making fleet shadows with corvettes broadcasting fake signatures. I just don't want to make it to complicated, so it doesn't slow down game play.

Any thoughts, of what I need or don't need.

Comments welcome!
 
For torps, I think they still just slice through. Hence, the remaining 30 second lock-on time as shown in WC4's attack on a frigate in the TPOF novel.

As for ECM and such, the example of the corvettes refitted to fake out the Kilrathi in End Run is just one example. There should be others.
 
hmmm as for slicing through... I was playing through wc3 and 4 recently, and it appears to knock the shields out when I hit a cap-ship with a torpedo. At least that's what my targeting computer tells me.
 
In WC3 and 4, do torpedoes still slice through shielding like in WC2, or do they do shield damage first. The same question for AMGs.
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From a "canon" perspective, they do - hence the lock time and such. The game isn't able to simulate only hull damage, so it knocks down the shields too.

LOAF or someone else in the know, do guys have commisioning and retiring dates for the WC craft, Confed and Kilrathi?
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Yes - are there any specific ships you need to know about?

I have not decided on how to do shielding differences between WC2 and WC3, in case pilots or ships come into conflict with obsolete vessels. I know that phase shielding isn't as effective. that sort of thing.
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I think it the upgrade from Meson to Phase shields on fighters between WC2 and 3 was fairly total - a fighter shielded in the manner seen in WC1/2 would be lucky to survive a single tachyon hit in the WC3 era.

And for Electronic warfare, were there any SWACS birds in operation during WC1-WC4. I am considering to have jamming knock out targeting computers and radar, and long distance communications like in WC4. The only problem I am having with ECM, is jamming missiles and making fleet shadows with corvettes broadcasting fake signatures. I just don't want to make it to complicated, so it doesn't slow down game play.
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The SWACS-specific ships in the WC1-4 era are larger, corvette sized ships. For individual roles (jump tracing, recon, jamming), individual fighters are outfitted with tech packages. (So, instead of a single ship that does everything you'd have a Broadsword with a jump tracer and an Arrow outfitted for long range recon on a mission-by-mission basis.)
 
Thanks for the help LOAF.

As for commisioning dates for pretty much all the ships lol, is there a fan site that has them?
 
Here's the list of Confed fighters, which I did a while ago. I'll do other ships in a bit.

A-14 Raptor class heavy fighter (2639-2668(^2))
A-17 Broadsword class bomber (2632*-2669(^2,^3))
A-18 Crossbow class bomber (2667*-2667)
CF-117 Rapier class medium fighter (2536-2654*)
F-32 Hornet class light fighter (2634-2669(^2))
F-36/CF-105 Scimitar class medium fighter (<2536-2655*(^3))
F-44 Rapier II class medium fighter (2654*-2669(^3))
F-54 Epee class medium fighter (2654-2667)
F-57 Sabre class heavy fighter (2654-2669(^3))
P-64 Ferret class patrol fighter (2639-2668)
F-66 Thunderbolt VII class heavy fighter (2668-2681)
F/A-76 Longbow class bomber (2654-2673(^1))
TB-80 Devestator class Torpedo Bomber (2681-2681)
TB-81 Shrike class Torpedo Bomber (2681-2681)
F-86 Hellcat V class medium fighter (2654-2673(^1))
F-103 Excalibur class heavy fighter (2669*-2681)
F-104 Bearcat class heavy fighter (2673*-2673)
F/A-105 Tigershark class Multi-Role Fighter (2681-2681)
F-106 Piranha class Scout Fighter (2681-2681)
F-107 Lance class heavy fighter (2672*-2673*)
F-108 Panther class Space Superiority Fighter (2681-2681)
F-109 Vampire class Space Superiority Fighter (2681-2681)
F-110 Wasp class Interceptor (2681-2681)
Arrow V class light fighter (2654-2673)
Avenger class bomber (2654-2673)
Banshee class heavy fighter (2669-2669)
Banshee II class light fighter ('ancient'-2673)
Corsair class fighter (2639*-2639)
Falcon class fighter-bomber (2634-2634)
Gladiator class bomber (2634-2634)
Gladius class heavy fighter(^4) (2669-2669)
Gotha class surface-to-space interceptor ('ancient')
Hummer class light recon fighter (2634-2634)
Hurricane class fighter (2592-2634)
Merlin class fighter (2634-2634)
Minotaur class fighter ('ancient'-2534)(^6)
Morningstar class heavy fighter (2667*-2667)
Phantom class light fighter(^5) (2669-2669)
Razor class Light Fighter (2654-2673)
Stiletto class light fighter (2669-2669)
Talon class light fighter (2654-2669)
Trident class heavy bomber (2634-2634)
Vindicator class medium fighter (2673-2673)
Wildcat class fighter (2604*-2639*)
Wraith class medium fighter (2667*-2669)

* = absolute date of entry/retirement, anything else is 'earliest/latest seen'.
(^1) Ship has been retired as of 2681.
(^2) Surplus craft used by the Free Republic of the Landreich circa 2672.
(^3) Surplus craft used by the Union of Border Worlds circa 2673.
(^4) Believed to be a replacement for the Raptor (2668).
(^5) Believed to be a replacement for the Scimitar (2655).
(^6) Still in service, circa 2634 - though production stopped one hundred years earlier.
 
Thanks LOAF, with these I can set up ship rosters. I am trying to make this as comprehensive as possible. I have been scrounging artwork and source text to keep it from being plain text.

All I need now are uniform shots, medals, and just a little bit more information.

This is a dumb question but I have to ask it, how do you lift video files or pictures from lets say, WC1 or WC2? I want to get the cockpit shots before the missions from both those games, and maybe even WC3.
 
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