New dimensions to space warfare?

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papachulo10

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As you know today's military war is quite electronical. One of the most integral weapons is jamming or ECM. What i want to know is this technology used in the WIng commander universe at all? Like in WCIII when the pulsar blocks communication signals could this technology be replecated by the Confederation? Or mabye something to block the scanners from operating(i'm not talking about anything like stealth technology)? One more thing as you said the Confederation has tight wallets after the Earth-Kilrah war, but what i don't understand is why are they making all these speacialized ships like one for intercepting and the like(pardon the spelling, again) when in WCIII they were a lot more generalized. I mean making a panther or vampire to accomplish all the tasks of a hellcat or tunderbolt would be cost effective. Tell me what you think.
 
There's no reason to believe specialized interceptors are suddenly a new phenomenon. The Wasp could easily be a much needed replacement for an aging wartime interceptor. Further, specialized vehicles can be cheaper than those designed to do everything. On specialized missions, they become more cost effective.
 
Originally posted by papachulo10
What i want to know is this technology used in the WIng commander universe at all?
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Yeah, it's used in WC. Jamming is quite popular in WC, you have ships like the electronic warfare craft used by the Project in WC4, and specificly desinge fighters, or modified versions of other fighters, loaded with electronics equipement, like the Kilrathi Zarthok.

Like in WCIII when the pulsar blocks communication signals could this technology be replecated by the Confederation?
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Don't you mean the nebula, not pulsar?

Or mabye something to block the scanners from operating(i'm not talking about anything like stealth technology)?
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Yes, things like that exist, and are used in games and novels.
but what i don't understand is why are they making all these speacialized ships like one for intercepting and the like(pardon the spelling, again)
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Yeah, like Crid said, there's no reason to believe that Confed didn't have fighters like that before. Anyhow, the Wasp is extremly effective at it's job. The booster allows it to close on the enemy faster, and it's weapons are quite deadly, with a single Swarmer is capable of destroying most ships by itself.

when in WCIII they were a lot more generalized.
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You'll notice that most ships in Prophecy are "generaalized". You don't have fighter bombers like in previous games, but heavy bombers, protected by fighters, etc.

I mean making a panther or vampire to accomplish all the tasks of a hellcat or tunderbolt would be cost effective. Tell me what you think.
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No, it wouldn't. The Vamp and Panther can accomplish anything the 'cat could do, while the Vampire can be fited with more torps and missiles than the T-bolt could carry.
 
I was talking about when Tolwyn was about to destroy Loki, he was able to get the drop on them because of the Pulsar. I said that the Panther and Vampire would be better. YOu misuderstood me. True that having speacialized ships would be better but why don't the wasps carry long range interception missles. Most of the time anyway the aircraft that fly BARCAP would take care of anyincoming hostiles.
 
You mean the Trackers the Vampires carry? Yeah, those would technicly be better for a dedicated interceptor, although I don't like them too much.
Most of the time anyway the aircraft that fly BARCAP would take care of anyincoming hostiles.
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True, but there are situations, like when a ship jumps into a system and didn't launch any fighters yet, when the Wasps would probably be a better choice. Or if the BARCAP fighters needed extra suport.

At any case, I like the Wasp more than the Panthers, and would rather have them flying escort.:)
 
Yeah i know what you mean baby! I love those wasps too. But i think only a dumb commander would ever not have a BARCAP patrol but i see your point. Some commanders are dumb, like it or not.
 
No, I meant that, when a ships jumps into a system and doesn't have the time to launch any fighters before it detects an enemy, Wasps would be the best fighters to launch at that time. No commander is stupid enough to fly without escorts.:)
 
I know what you mean but i meant that the wasps are soo cool. They have that mean look and i know they could not handle those extra long scout or BARCAP missions.
 
I dont know about you all, but I always have see wasps being use by Cruisers and Destroyes as a defence fighter since they are small and by the look of them, easy to fit in any space and easier to repair as well.
Its a great point defense fighter and I always like to fly one.
 
The only problem I see with Wasps being standard issue on Cruisers or Destroyers is because I'd imagine you'd have to carry a ton of those large rocket boosters in storage. Although despite how often they're used in Prophecy, I wonder how much they'd actually be used in regular situations though. It might pan out.
 
Good point chris. But someone tell me how having a bomber escorted by fighters is more cost effective than a fighte bomber. I know there will always be a need for a devestator for instance, but lets say there is an enemy destroyer or some transports, a fighter bomber would be just as effective as a shrike but would be able to defend itself against fighters.
 
The reason for specialized fighters is because now that ConFed isnt at war it can use ships that are best for this and otheres that are better at other things. During the War they were just trying to produce as many fighters as they could that could fill as many roles as possible because they were easier to mass produce, making it easier to have more generalized parts for repair and weapons to arm them. But since ConFed isnt at war they have the leisure to specialize fighters, being better at the job than a more rounded fighter, mainly cause there wouldnt ever be a real situation that a complement of specialized fighters couldnt handle short of all out war.
 
Bombers escorted by fighters can be more efficient, and just overall better actually, because each is allowed to do their job to the fullest. Fighter-bombers don't just have the ability to defend themselves.. they *must* defend themselves. That seriously detracts from their *other primary goal* of taking down capital ships they've been assigned to destroy. On the other hand, a Fighter and Bomber combination is less overwhelmed. Fighters can focus on taking down other fighters, and the Bombers can go straight towards focusing on the capital ship.

As a defender, what would be worse: tackling a fighter-bomber one-on-one, or trying to take down a bomber while you've got an escort fighter kicking your ass in the mean time? Obviously the latter I'd think..
 
True, but the Bugs always have a 5 to 1 advantage and the shrike is not a very good ship, I have no prob with the devastator since its a very good Bomber I even took out that ace in the shipyard mission with him.
The shrike is overated, confed sould look in a replacement for it, something faster and with better handeling performance, its worst ship that I fly in all the games I played (WC II to WC P SO) passing by far the Tarsus that was the worst before.
 
Right now the US, Has bombers and Fighters and Fighter Bombers to cover roles that are not necessary for a full blown bomber. What I am saying is that to attack a minor target like a Group of baracudas or an Orca or Triton Transports, figher bombers could do that job just as well as fighters and bombers and be more cost effective.
 
You are talking about the F/A-18 Hornet?
You must remeber that before the Bug show up it was confed that start battles(against pirates and renegedes) with a advantage in munbers, so they did not need a fighter like the T-Bolt during the war, now I really dont like the Shrike but that ship was always a bomber, not a fighter.
Now Confed could be at war again and a "heavy fighter" may be needed again.
You are making sense napoleon, but you know that confed did not have any new type of heavy fighter that could do that (they could dig up the Dragon because he can do that)
 
i know they didn't have one, but I think they should, like perhaps a dragon -the m/am drive to reduce costs so they have an effective heavy fighter with anti-cap ship capabilities
 
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