Aeronautico
Rear Admiral
I am proposing that we create a new weapons category on the WCPedia. We have a category on laser guns and another on missiles, but torpedoes are a totally different ballgame. What do you guys say? A torpedo category?
New category: Torpedoes
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Would it replace or supplement the missile category? I'd be mildly for it if it appeared at the bottom of the page along with the missile category, but would be against it if it replaced the missile category.
My big issues with it are that there really aren't enough torpedoes to justify a separate torpedo category, and that if I were to look up torpedoes, I'd instinctively go to the missile category because of the guns/missiles dichotomy.
My big issues with it are that there really aren't enough torpedoes to justify a separate torpedo category, and that if I were to look up torpedoes, I'd instinctively go to the missile category because of the guns/missiles dichotomy.
Aeronautico
Rear Admiral
I don't know. Well, we could do a rocket or heavy weapons category. Not all warheads in WC fit the criteria of a missile. But weapons like the Temblor Bomb don't seem to fit in with missiles.
There is also the case behind Flash-Paks and the Gen-Select Bioweapon, among others. Neither of them fit these other categories. We could try a superweapon page. These are merely proposals.
There is also the case behind Flash-Paks and the Gen-Select Bioweapon, among others. Neither of them fit these other categories. We could try a superweapon page. These are merely proposals.
Miscellaneous weaponry, or something? There aren't enough torpedoes for their own category as far as I know, but these other things will definitely need a category as well.
Anyone want to put down money on LOAF either reminding us that the torpedoes could be different versions between games/the movie/novels/etc, or actually having an enumerated list? I'll wager $20... (all in good fun, LOAF. I do love those posts.)
Anyone want to put down money on LOAF either reminding us that the torpedoes could be different versions between games/the movie/novels/etc, or actually having an enumerated list? I'll wager $20... (all in good fun, LOAF. I do love those posts.)
Aeronautico
Rear Admiral
Miscellaneous weaponry? That could work.
I like that.
Bandit LOAF
Long Live the Confederation!
Torpedoes haven't been very well categorized, to date.
The Forstchen novels give them (of course) water Navy-style designations:
Mark III, Mark IV Antiship Torpedo and Mark V Antimatter Torpedo. In Fleet Action, the Mark IV and V are top-of-the-line in 2668 and that the Mark III is still used (the Wing Commander IV novelization goes on to say that the Mark IV has a multimegaton fusion warhead).
Wing Commander III calls its torpedo 'Lance' (what in Wing Commander isn't named Lance?) on the weapons selection screen -- and it's unclear whether or not this is the same weapon as a Mark {Variable}. Arena also uses Lance for the torpedoes, but makes clear that they're a newer type of weapon.
Privateer has unguided 'Proton Torpedoes'. Fleet Action mentions the Confederation using 'older unguided' torpedoes at one point and then that same technology is said to be used in Arena as well, crossed with matter/anti-matter warheads.
Wing Commander Prophecy and Secret Ops give a whole wedge of torpedoes their own special names: Valiant Light Torpedo, Lancer Enhanced Light Torpedo, Firestorm Torpedo and Pike Enhanced Torpedo.
I suppose there would also be at least one entry for Kilrathi torpedoes, too...
Dundradal
Frog Blast the Vent Core!
I think they should stay within the missile category. It could just have a subcategory that would work fine. We do have some unique weapons that might need some special attention (Anti-radar submunitions missile, t-bomb, etc) but I don't think we should start creating categories for all of them. A subcategory works just fine.
Aeronautico
Rear Admiral
A subcategory could work. There are quite a few weapons (particularly from WC3 and WC4) that do not fall into the category of either a missile or a torpedo. It would consolidate things a bit to include everything under missiles.
AD
Finder of things, Doer of stuff
While torpedoes and missiles do work similarly I'm sure we can all agree that the various kinds of mines in Wing commander don't fit into either the guns or missiles categories. Maybe we should rename the category "Hardpoint Loadable Weapons" or something more cool sounding and then missiles, torpedoes, mines, and special weapons can all have their own sections.
Aeronautico
Rear Admiral
That's a lot of subcategories. True, it sound more appropriate considering they all work differently. I didn't even think of mines. That doesn't fit guns or missiles in the slightest.
Dundradal
Frog Blast the Vent Core!
I think this is a good idea. I'd rather have one large category with a bunch of subsections than a ton of larger categories with one or two items cluttering up the main category list.
Any other ideas for a nice name for this category?
Fighter Loadable Ordinance?
I'm sure we can think of something cool sounding than AD's and my attempt.
Aeronautico
Rear Admiral
I like this new idea. Hardpoint Loadable Weapons sounds cool to me. It is better to have one category for all such weapons and several subcategories. There are so many weapons out there, but they are all distinct one way or another.
Wedge009
Rogue Leader
If you're using this term in the encyclopaedia, I gently suggest you double-check the vast difference in meaning between ordnance and ordinance.
I'm sure we can think of something cool sounding than AD's and my attempt.
"Plot Device Weaponry", man! But in all seriousness, a newcomer to the encyclopedia would probably be just as well served with "Guns", "Missiles", and "Miscellaneous Weapons" as categories, at this point.