Dear beloved Friends, Wingnut and Else

TheFraix

TheFraix

Vice Admiral
Dear beloved friends and fellow Wingnuts
(and for anybody else who happened to be reading this)...

I have been a loyal WC fan for nearly ten years, and has been part of the CIC community since 1998. When I heard of the free @crius.net email address available for us Wingnuts, I thought "Hey, this is cool!"

But I decided not to use it due to my time schedule limitations (I'm already maintaining three email addresses) and I was also wary about giving away sensitive information to an email provider I haven't known well yet (which shall be named nameless in this paragraph :) ).

Just two weeks ago, I began to teach my brother how to use an email address... and decided to use that @crius.net email. He happens to like WC a bit and he didn't mind which email provider to use.

I filled in the necessary information required (name, gender, age, and a email address to refer to), and they promised to send a link to that email address (which happens to belong to my dad, primarily used for his work).

I've activated his account, but to my dismay COULDN'T open up the inbox (which happen to be on the other side of the globe using the server bigmailbox.com). I ran a trace program, and went to some 20-odd hops and I was so suspicious of what was going on. (Trace results can be shown if requested). WHY CAN'T I ACCESS THAT MAILBOX?

Let me explain a set of agreements:
1. I've agreed to use the email service provided with the domain 'crius.net)
2. I've disagreed to let them subscribe my dad's email to any free announcements or news
3. I've disagreed to let them refer my email to outsiders outside my permission

So far, they haven't fulfilled agreement #1 due to many technical difficulties (I live in Jakarta, Indonesia... I can assume that mailbigbox.com is located at the other side of the globe).

Now, here's the problem with the other two agreements.
Lately I've been receiving spams and junkmails, all related to iExpect.com through my Dad's email address. Strangest thing of all, those spams are addressed to 'JIMMY' (my brother's). And all of this occurred after I submitted my dad's email to the BigMailbox service.
My Dad's so upset since his work is very crucial to the church and country and he hate seeing those useless emails. I've thought about unsubscribing from that iExpect.com but I also said to myself, "I should've expect this."

Anyway... what's done has been done, and my dad's mailbox is being filled by useless emails which is disrupting his work.

If anyone related to BigMailbox is reading this, would you please remove every trace of iExpect.com and the email 'robbycha@***.***.id' from your servers. Thank you.


A very much disatisfied Wingnut
-Arvin 'TheFraix' Chandra
 
Uhm... if you secretly believe that they can read your mind through the tinfoil hat, you should probably contact *them*. Instead of posting to an unrelated message board...
 
Hey, sorry about your difficulties.. but you might as well read your letter on the street corner as post it here.. The mail box service we use is just that, a separate service. They're a business and have more than twenty-five thousands similar email arrangements through other websites. There's a real good chance nobody from that company will ever visit wcnews.com or crius.net in their lifetimes. http://www.bigmailbox.com
 
First and foremost, even if it's been said before, I want to repeat that we have absolutely no control over the @crius.net mail server. We know how many @crius.net addresses there are and some basic signup statistics (breakdowns by date) but nothing more. We don't know what addresses exist and we know nothing about the people who use the service.

On the number of hops between you and the mail server; I don't think much can be done about that by BigMailBox. You could try another ISP, one that has better peering. Other than migrating I can't think of anything else that might help.

Now, about the Spam Problem. BigMailBox has been pretty bad lately, but they're by no means worse than any other free e-mail provider. If you had signed your brother up with Hotmail, the exact same thing would have happened. Believe me, we're all up to our ears in penis enlargements and dead African presidents here. If your father has so far been spam-free, he's been very lucky. Sadly, there's nothing anyone can do about spam, and I think for most of us here it's become common to get several unwanted e-mails a day. I get about 30 nowadays. Don't "unsubscribe" either, it'll just put your address on a list of "live addresses" that are sold to loser companies.

First of all, congratulate your dad on becoming a real internet user: drowning in spam is a rite of passage. Second, tell him to get Spamkiller (http://www.spamkiller.com). It's pretty good at filtering e-mail based on a number of criteria (message text, sender, country) and works in conjunction with Outlook or whatever mail client you use. If he only communicates with Indonesians, then blocking every country except Indonesia might even get rid of close to 100% of all spam.
 
Originally posted by KrisV
Sadly, there's nothing anyone can do about spam, and I think for most of us here it's become common to get several unwanted e-mails a day. I get about 30 nowadays. Don't "unsubscribe" either, it'll just put your address on a list of "live addresses" that are sold to loser companies.
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Once or twice a week there are days I get over a hundred junk mails..
 
well...

you could contact the PR of these companies and give them a glaring email full of words like ****, and there's always ************ and ******* and also ********** and dont forget *** ** * *****.

if you can put some other languages swear words, it sounds better.

tell them to stop sending email to you

then start blocking the addresses
 
actually, I never get spammed. All you need to do to avoid spam is be damn careful about what happens to your e-mail addresses. I only give mine out to people I know won't send me crap.
 
Originally posted by Darkmage
actually, I never get spammed. All you need to do to avoid spam is be damn careful about what happens to your e-mail addresses. I only give mine out to people I know won't send me crap.
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But you signed up here.. :)
 
Well... thanks for the input guys.

I've finally opened the BigMailBox.com homepage (read: just opened) and am thinking twice about sending them anything.

About that spam thing, I should've guessed sooner. I was a bit tired and drowsy when registering my brother's email and I should've used my 'special4spam' hotmail account instead of my dad's private email.
 
dacis

Most "companies" mentioned in a majority of the spam out there are really just individual stupid, lazy boneheads running around in their sh*t/pee-stained underwear with delusions of mediocracy. The closest thing to a "PR department" they might have is their favorite sock puppet (which also serves as a spooge sock for when they beat off for the sake getting as close as they'll ever get to having sex).

Never reply to a spam, for any reason. Doing so only gives them a "live" address that they can put on address lists to sell to other spamming losers (redundant, I know). Even if it's not used for that purpose, it's very well possible that the address for replies they give may belong to someone else, or may not even exist at all. The former is a common trait of a spammer revenge tactic called a "joe job", for its first (in)famous use against a Chicago area free webspace provider, joes.com, in which the victim's contact info is used for the sake of making the actual address owner the victim of a "mailbomb by proxy" (joes.com was nearly blown entirely off the internet when a spammer sought revenge against the joes.com admin, for a joes.com site that was nuked because it was advertised in a spam).
 
What's a dacis

I'm still smart enough not to reply to any f***ing spam mail. You know that my special_for_spam hotmail account receives 30 odd some spam mails per day!

Crazy huh?



Say Death.

What is this 'dacis' thing you put in your post's subject?
 
Presumably, it's got something to do with the post to which he was replying... which happened to be written by dacis2 :p.
 
Originally posted by Darkmage
actually, I never get spammed. All you need to do to avoid spam is be damn careful about what happens to your e-mail addresses. I only give mine out to people I know won't send me crap.
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I think I got about 30 Spams last year or so at my private address. Watching over your address DOES help a lot. Dunno where those found me - either a webcrawler found my webpage or some service (like this here - just a random example, nothing implied by this!) are either giving away addresses or they have been hacked. Anyway that is a menageable number and about 70% of them are filtered by the mailsoftware anyhow.

I get about 5 messages a day on my university address however. Some a**hole did subscribe with our student mailinglist to some stuff. And of course there are always whackos that try to remove our address and so keep it firm in the databases.

About 200-300 a week on hotmail with filters on max ;) But then that is my give and forget spam container. *g*
 
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