Could the vesuvius have made a difference?

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$tormin

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if they had been completed before the war ended could they have altered the logical outcome of the war?
Logical outcome means no temblor bomb :)
 
going to have to check the dates but dosn't wc4 take place quite soon after wc3? during wartime they couldhave been completed quicker due to a larger budget for the military. and believe me, the military would want one of these.
 
I think the Vesuvius carriers could only have made the difference in the war in a reasonable number (4, 5 or 6 carriers would do the job)
 
OK...how 'bout smarter then me in this particular subject. If the subject was Patriot Missile Systems I could answer more questions.
 
Originally posted by Patriot
OK...how 'bout smarter then me in this particular subject. If the subject was Patriot Missile Systems I could answer more questions.
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oh. actually i do have a few questions on the patriot. but i will use email as not to clutter up the board.
 
The obvious answer is :
Yes, of course they would have made a difference. Just look at the specs and they're way ahead of anything Confed had at the end of WC3. IF they were ready before the end of WC3 then yes, they could have swung the balance a little more towards Confed's side.

One or two Versuvii probably wouldn't have made a difference, while a larger number would have. But that's the whole point. They weren't ready. It's like asking whether Germany would have lost WW2 if it had managed to produce the Me-262 in greater numbers. The plane would have kicked ass, but it just wasn't ready in time to make a significant difference.
 
Yeah right they would have killed hundrets of b17!!!
But i don't think the vesuvius would've made a big difference. As Blair once said: A carrier is nothing without good pilots!!! Therefore i think the dragon fighter would have been far more relevant then a new carrier just think of the concordia loaded with a squadron of dragons.
They would kick any vesuvius ass!
 
Originally posted by $tormin
if they had been completed before the war ended could they have altered the logical outcome of the war?
Logical outcome means no temblor bomb :)
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Not neccessarily. It takes more than a handfull of carriers (not matter how big) to swing the balance of a war. Even if we had the Vesuvius class ready in time, would we have had the pilots and fighters to put on them, especially after the hammering we took in Fleet Action? With our industrial capabilities and our colonies smashed so throughly, the only way we would have gotten those was from other frontline units, which is pretty pointless. A case of robbing Peter to pay Paul, I'd say.

Best, Raptor
 
Originally posted by AzraeL
One or two Versuvii probably wouldn't have made a difference, while a larger number would have. But that's the whole point. They weren't ready. It's like asking whether Germany would have lost WW2 if it had managed to produce the Me-262 in greater numbers. The plane would have kicked ass, but it just wasn't ready in time to make a significant difference.
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Not quite. A more appropriate analogy would be asking whether Germany could have won World War One if they had Me-262s :).
Yes, of course having Vesuvii and/or Dragons would have helped, but it's impossible. Both ships were developed after the war. The Vesuvius, notably, was developed with some Kilrathi technology incorporated into it - and this technology, taken as it was from some of the best Kilrathi capital ships, was undoubtedly unavailable to Confed during the War.
 
Originally posted by Raptor
Originally posted by $tormin
if they had been completed before the war ended could they have altered the logical outcome of the war?
Logical outcome means no temblor bomb :)
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Not neccessarily. It takes more than a handfull of carriers (not matter how big) to swing the balance of a war. Even if we had the Vesuvius class ready in time, would we have had the pilots and fighters to put on them, especially after the hammering we took in Fleet Action? With our industrial capabilities and our colonies smashed so throughly, the only way we would have gotten those was from other frontline units, which is pretty pointless. A case of robbing Peter to pay Paul, I'd say.

Best, Raptor
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AHH i like your way of talking.
if we had the Vesuvius i like that!!!!

We are the confederation tataaaaaaaaa
We have won the war coooool
 
The Vesuvii weren't even *begun* before the war ended -- they used a lot of captured Kilrathi technology in their design...
 
yeah therfore they couldn't build a vesuvii baby instead they build the behemoth and that was their greatest fault!
Couldn't the behenoth be the secret fleet they were talking about in fleet action???
 
Small History Lesson...

Originally posted by AzraeL
It's like asking whether Germany would have lost WW2 if it had managed to produce the Me-262 in greater numbers. The plane would have kicked ass, but it just wasn't ready in time to make a significant difference.
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Actually, the Me-262 "Swabble" was plenty ready in time. However, in one of Hitler's major goofs (often cosidered one of his top 3 screw-ups of WWII), he declared the plane be deployed as a quick-strike BOMBER, to go with his terror weapon train of thought. Hermann Goering and other high-ranking Luftwaffe officials tried exhaustively to get Hitler to use the fighter as intended -- as a defensive bomber-destroyer for the Third Reich -- but were unsuccessful.

By the time Hitler realized his mistake, Allied bombers had destroyed much of the industry needed to produce the fighter, and the Allied fighters had developed methods to cope with the Me-262.
 
Yeah, Hitler did screw up a lot. Its a shame the General's couldn't stand up more to him. They seemed to be quite capable in the field.

What were the other two stuff ups Professor?
 
No, the Omega project was supposed to be a small, stealthy craft -- with multiple ships... all characteristics that aren't particularly Behem-esque.
 
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