Confed's Organization

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Ladiesman^

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Ok, i've rambled on in Wingnut about this at least once. I'm trying to figure out how Confed is organized.

The Military:
Man is this confusing. All the different names for things and such. Here's what i've gathered so far:

ConFleet: It isn't an actual body of the navy or anything, it's just a way of saying a conferdation fleet. From what I understand, it's not used very often anyway.

Navy+Space Force: Ok, easy enough. The navy is in charge of the cap ships, Space Force is in charge of the fighters. BUT, are the fighters on say the Midway naval fighters, or are they Space Force fighters? I heard somehwere the Space Force is my like base defenses and stuff. (Perhaps something like what Blair was assigned to after WC1?)

Militias+Insystem Security: Ok, so these apparently aren't the same thing. In another post, the Militia is defiend as hired mercenaries, and insys is a section of Confed. Something like the police? So does that tell us that the police force of Confed is controlled by the military too? Seems like a novel idea...but for some reason doesn't seem right...

Intelligence: This get's confusing. Off hand I don't remember their names, but there's something like naval intelligence and regular intelligence. Apparently though, this is the same thing with different names. I really wish I could remember what they are called, but there are at least two different sections, apparently doing the same exact thing.

Marines+Army: I've only been on here a few days, and have seen this come up many times. So from what I understand, the Marines are more closely tied to the navy and are the first strike. They do a good deal of the fighting. The army more or less comes in later to hold what has been captured. Both have all sorts of heavy weapons, like tanks, apc's, etc..

Ok, I wanted to go further, government and stuff, but this is sufficiently long. I'm sure we can argue confed's military for ages.
 
Navy and Space Forces stuff blur together. Pilots and personnel occasionally switch between them.. so I'd imagine there's not a whole lot of difference with the ships.

Militia are sort of hired mercenaries. They're kinda like local vets that get paid to keep order. InSys Security is stuff like Confed reservists and back-line Confed pilots and ships.
 
Originally posted by Ladiesman^
Navy+Space Force: Nope, space force is not only on bases. In all of the main WC games we fly as a Space Forces officer.
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Militias: The Border Worlds and Landreich would have to orginize their own militias throughout the war and even later. Confed would usually have a small force, but would pull it back if needed. So those people had to organize their own defense. Militias and such that we see in Privateer are most likelly, mostly obsolete Confed ships (ie Talons) flown probably by local pilots, including mercenaries. Home Defense Airspace Command, to which Flash belonged before geting assigned to the Victory, is IMO an example of a Militia.


***Intelligence: This get's confusing. Off hand I don't remember their names, but there's something like naval intelligence and regular intelligence. Apparently though, this is the same thing with different names. I really wish I could remember what they are called, but there are at least two different sections, apparently doing the same exact thing.***

Nope, those are two different things. You have your military inteligence, and "government inteligence"...


[Edited by Earthworm on 01-29-2001 at 21:20]
 
I belive that he is talking about Intel and conter Intel, those two groups are separeted in the WC universe.
 
Originally posted by Ladiesman^
Intelligence: This get's confusing. Off hand I don't remember their names, but there's something like naval intelligence and regular intelligence. Apparently though, this is the same thing with different names. I really wish I could remember what they are called, but there are at least two different sections, apparently doing the same exact thing.
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There's the TCIA, which is basically a spinoff of the US's CIA, (though, whether it stands for Terran Central Intelligence Agency, or Terran Confederation Intelligence Agency, I'm not sure), and then I'd say each division of the Armed forces (Navy, Army, Marines, with the exception of Space Forces, possibly) has their own intelligence sources.
 
Um..i'm not really sure what I meant by intelligence. I was having a discussion with someone, and the intelligence came up. It was, if I remember, something like the Naval intelligence, but it had two names. We wrote it off as just being an inconsistancy, but I REALLY don't like doing that. If it's there it has an explanation.
 
In WC4 and before, Space Force was responsible for ALL fighter operations in the games - there were *no* fighter pilots in the games which carried Naval ranks, and this stands to reason - after all, if you have mixed ranks, is a Captain equivalent to a Colonel, or is a Captain equivalent to a Lieutenant?

I think it's a huge mistake on the part of Forstchen and the post-WC4 game staff to mix ranks in the fighter wings. Either make it ALL Space Force or make it ALL Navy.
 
Um, where the hell have you seen the ranks mixed after WC4? Ranks in Prophecy/SO/FC, remain the same as they did before...

[Edited by Earthworm on 02-04-2001 at 17:16]
 
Yeah, she is a Space Forces officer, therefore shouldn't be a Commander, but that hardly justifies saying that the ranks are mixed... more like a mistake by OSI.
 
There are indeed Navy fliers. Bear, most notably, is command of the Tarawa air group while being a Lt. Commander.

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CAG

Actually, from what I remember of context in Prophecy, the CAG's rank IS Colonel. She is referred to, and has referred to herself as the commander of her section. ie Commander Air Group.
 
According to the Prophecy manual and guide she's a Commander. Which doesn't make much sense considering that she's in the space forces.

[Edited by Earthworm on 02-04-2001 at 21:17]
 
Exactly Mr. Earthworm, it does not make sense but then again why do Casey's friends call him casey instead of Lance, even when one of the three women are hitting on him they are still calling him Casey, his last name not Lance his first name. It would be like
"Oh hi smith welcome back"
"MY NAME IS JOHN"
"Ok fine SMITH whatever you say"
 
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