Carriers
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OriginalPhoenix
Professor Emeritus
The V in CV stands for a Latin word (which escapes me at the moment) meaning 'heavier than air', describing the craft that a modern carrier, well, carries. It does not stand for Vehicle, Vessel, or aViation.
Bandit LOAF
Long Live the Confederation!
TCS has stood for Terran Confederation Ship and Terran Confederation Starship.
To the best of my knowledge CV means conventional aircraft carrier. This means that any carrier bearing the CV designation carries conventional fixed wing aircraft, similar to their land based counterparts. Other types of carrier have more narrow focus, like CVS, which is dedicated to anti-submarine warfare and so would only carry ASW helicopters.
Bandit LOAF
Long Live the Confederation!
Except in Wing Commander, where CVS means dreadnought <G>
Wedge009
Rogue Leader
In one of the manuals, one of the fighters (Tigershark?) was described as being useful for filling 'holes' in a CV's wing. Had no idea what a CV stood for at the time I first read it... still unsure now. 
BTW, no mention of the fact that there's no 'mega'carrier either.
WC1 - Bengal Strike Carrier
WC2 - Confederation Dreadnought
WC3 - Victory Light Carrier
WC4 - Concordia Carrier, Durango Destroyer, Vesuvius Heavy Carrier
WCP - Midway Heavy Carrier
SO - Hades Quick Strike Cruiser
BTW, no mention of the fact that there's no 'mega'carrier either.
WC1 - Bengal Strike Carrier
WC2 - Confederation Dreadnought
WC3 - Victory Light Carrier
WC4 - Concordia Carrier, Durango Destroyer, Vesuvius Heavy Carrier
WCP - Midway Heavy Carrier
SO - Hades Quick Strike Cruiser
The concordia had Anti-Matter cannons and a Phase Transit cannon
I know they aren't really anti-fighter weapons, but I think I once tried to fly into the phase transit projectile when the Concordia uses it against the Carrier in the early missions of WC2 and I got myself killed. Don't remember it that well though, I may not of been killed
Mekt-Hakkikt
Mpanty's bane
I think Wedge refers to the theory that the designation 'megacarrier' is only colloquial and that the correct term for both the Vesuvius and the Midways-classes would be Heavy Carrier instead of super- or megacarrier.
BTW:
I like Strike carriers the best too but they're not on the list thus I picked my 2nd favourite.
BTW:
I like Strike carriers the best too but they're not on the list thus I picked my 2nd favourite.
If I were a fleet commander, I'd prefer to get just a fleet carrier with maybe one or thwo escort carriers. The megacarriers are too big, and too heavy... so that their YPR rates are awful... and what about a GIGAcarrier ? Well, it won't be a carrier but a station (a jumping station...)
AD
Finder of things, Doer of stuff
Ughhh. Did someone say star wars (don't get me wrong theres nothing wrong with star wars). The are to many flaws in a ship/station of the scale of which you speak.
First of all, the uses for such a vessel are very very limited... and expensive. It would cost a tremendously exorbitant amount of money and resources that in most economic situations the go-ahead would never be justified. Not only for construction, but imagine what would be needed to power the sucker, as well as the human (or other species) needed to man such an "outpost". As you mentioned there would be no manoevering so you would need tremendous resources to burn on defense since you would pretty much be a sitting duck. It deffitly wouldn't be usefull as part of a strike or carrier group.
However, a jumpable suply station/base could be usefull in quickly establishing a refueling base and suply and support depot anywhere you are planning an offensive. No construction time needed. Or setup time. When your done or need it somewhere else... off it goes. It wouldn't have much in the way of propulsion, probably the most basic jets for slight orbit corections or subtle manoevering. In each system it would pretty much stay in the same place unless you tow it with tugs. It be a pretty good way to keep an eye on jump points.
-AD
Have you ever heard of the Law of Diminishing Returns? Bigger is only better up to a certain point. IMO, that point is reached with the Vesuvius-class heavy carrier - the larger Midway-class CVs are *much* less effective per unit mass than the Vesuvii.
Fighters are *astonishingly* deadly for their size; WC fighters have probably the highest power to mass ratio of any ships in sci-fi, outside of things like the Culture.
Bandit LOAF
Long Live the Confederation!
Sane people had ought to be tired of this whole "BIGGER SPACE SHIPS ARE BETTER" cruddle.
My super super ultra robot space super ultra destroyer cruiser frigate carrier-nought sivar destroyer ultra super spaceship IV is better than yours because it's 10,343,232,2321,23123,231256319 meters long. That's so long that the placement of the commas stops making sense!
Ships are effective because of their capabilities... *not* because of how long they are <G>
(Midways, for example, are "longer" than Vesuvii -- but they're cheaper and carry less fighters...).
My super super ultra robot space super ultra destroyer cruiser frigate carrier-nought sivar destroyer ultra super spaceship IV is better than yours because it's 10,343,232,2321,23123,231256319 meters long. That's so long that the placement of the commas stops making sense!
Ships are effective because of their capabilities... *not* because of how long they are <G>
(Midways, for example, are "longer" than Vesuvii -- but they're cheaper and carry less fighters...).
