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    Size of the Confederation and Kilrathi territories.

    How do you not understand that a large amount of material preseneted in the movie - changes to the ships, technology, and main characters - conflicts with the material presented in the WC games and novels? Read the WC3 novel. They describe the skipper missile as a new type of weapon...
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    Size of the Confederation and Kilrathi territories.

    I agree completely that the WC movie is an "official" part of the WC universe. That's not what I'm arguing about at all. I'm saying that Chris Roberts made so many changes to the WC1 setting when he made the movie that it's essentially impossible to successfully combine the movie with the...
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    Size of the Confederation and Kilrathi territories.

    I address this above in my previous post. What are you talking about? The WC bible was compiled in 1995. It introduces some new information (specifically about how jump drives work), but most of the information is based on either the games or the novels. How could anything produced...
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    Size of the Confederation and Kilrathi territories.

    For the last time, the WC movie ships look TOTALLY DIFFERENT. We're not talking about slight, stylistic changes here. If you take the movie Tiger's claw and the WC1 Tiger's claw, and put them side by side, do you think they both reasonably represent the same craft? Or any of the Kilrathi...
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    Size of the Confederation and Kilrathi territories.

    And I don't agree with what you're saying. But you clearly didn't even understand what I was saying, since you seemed to think I was referring to publication dates. How many times do I have to explain this? The movie clearly REPLACES many established elements from WC1 (ship designs, main...
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    Size of the Confederation and Kilrathi territories.

    I agree completely, the inclusion of skipper missiles in 2654 in the WC movie WAS wrong. As you've pointed out, the existence and deployment of Kilrathi cloaking technology that early in the war totally screws up the WC2 storyline. It would be like watching a movie set in 1940 during the...
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    Size of the Confederation and Kilrathi territories.

    You clearly don't understand the concept I was trying to describe. I NEVER said that the order in which the games or novels were released correlated with the timeline in the WC universe. The order of publication is totally irrelevant. I was referring to the fact that subsequent games never...
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    Size of the Confederation and Kilrathi territories.

    First point, it seems that some people here still don't understand what I'm saying. I'm going to try explaining this one last time. WC1 was set in 2654, WC2 was around 2664-2668, Privateer was in 2669, WC3 was in 2669, WC4 was in the 2670's, and Prophecy was in the 2680's. So each installment...
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    Size of the Confederation and Kilrathi territories.

    That's great that the handbook tries to provide an explanation for some of the differences, but it doesn't change the fact that the movie is very different from the games. The games don't have an "earlier" Rapier model at all. Saying "well there used to be one, but they phased it out" is a...
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    Size of the Confederation and Kilrathi territories.

    First, regarding jump drives, you don't understand what I'm saying when I refer to the average speed of jump travel. Yes, jump lines will depend on local conditions. But they will generally connect to a nearby area of space with a large gravitational pull, i.e., a nearby star. The jump point...
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    Size of the Confederation and Kilrathi territories.

    That's great, but we aren't dealing with a 1981 Rapier compared to a 2005 Rapier. We're dealing with the Rapiers that waere stationed on the Tiger's Claw. The movie Rapiers are supposed to represent the same fighter that was depicted in the games (not a later model), but they look completely...
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    Size of the Confederation and Kilrathi territories.

    There's a big difference here. The movie didn't "expand" or "continue" the WC universe. It redesigned the WC setting entirely with new ships, technology, and major changes to the plot and main characters. Enterprise and the Star Wars prequils didn't "remake" their original series, they took...
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    Size of the Confederation and Kilrathi territories.

    The difference is that WC3 had extensive video sequences that maintained the look and setting of the original WC games. Despite the technological advances the later games clearly "fit in" with the earlier games, so there's no reason why a movie would need to depart from the established WC...
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    Size of the Confederation and Kilrathi territories.

    Obviously there are many aspects of the WC setting that can't be addressed by the games/novels. I'm not saying that just because something wasn't stated in the games/novels doesn't mean it can't exist in the WC setting. What I'm saying is that to suddenly include something such as the pilgrims...
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    Size of the Confederation and Kilrathi territories.

    Actually, if you have Origin's Official Guide to Wing Commander III they provide a technical explanation of why Kilrathi ships design changed so radically from WC2 to WC3. Basically, it's a consequence of the fact that bitmap graphics were used in WC1 and WC2. To minimize their workload, they...
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    Size of the Confederation and Kilrathi territories.

    They aren't just slightly different, they look COMPLETELY different. The movie rapier bears no ressemblance at all to the rapier from the games. They also use totally different weapons technology (gatling cannon vs. laser and neutron weapons). You're comparing a cartoon character from 1990...
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    Size of the Confederation and Kilrathi territories.

    So you're trying to say that the movie doesn't contradict the games/novels? So could you tell me what Rapiers are supposed to look like then? Are they streamlined starfighers with neutron guns and laser cannons from the games/novels? Or do they look like World War II fighters with...
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    Size of the Confederation and Kilrathi territories.

    Actually, I remember an interview with Chris Roberts where he mentioned that he saw the WC movie as a chance to "redefine" or "reinvent" the WC setting. I'm not sure what his exact words were, but it was clear that he was changing many aspects of the original games/novels to come up with a new...
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    Size of the Confederation and Kilrathi territories.

    Agreed, the distance travelled during a single jump isn't necessarily relevant in determing your total "average" speed during jump travel. The WC bible mentions that one jump could take you 1000 ly while three jumps could only take you 20 ly. So i'm not trying to suggest that a jump drive will...
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    Size of the Confederation and Kilrathi territories.

    Ok, you obviously don't understand what I've been saying because you just repeated the same concept I had mentioend in an earlier post. Here's what I posted earlier: That would seem to indicate that by the start of Prophecy they've explored about a quarter of the galactic disk. However...
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