What do these mean?

The Prowler is used for electronic warfare, isn't it ? It tries to give false information to the radar and SAM sites before the actual attack... Well, when you see a Prowler, you can be sure you're gonna get " a right mouthful"...

[The Tom ? Hey, just wait and see our brand new multi-role Rafales ! :D ]

John
 
Originally posted by NoRemorse
The Prowler is used for electronic warfare, isn't it ? It tries to give false information to the radar and SAM sites before the actual attack... Well, when you see a Prowler, you can be sure you're gonna get " a right mouthful"...
Indeed. The Prowler (and the USAF EF-111) are among the premier electronic warfare platforms in the world. One of the ways they jam enemy radar is by producing immense amounts of "noise", effectively putting so much crap on the view screens that the operator can't begin to decipher which are the real targets.
 
Hi,

I seem to remember a film in which a drill instructer said that only two things came from Texas - But I don't want to wind up Bandit Loaf.

Cheers
 
It's not that I have anything against Texas- it's a great states with wonderful people (THE GIRLS) and very cheap prices on all its goods :D

However, since it's in the lower 48, I don't consider it "unique," or "exciting...," well, maybe exciting (THE GIRLS).

I guess you could consider Alaska unique but it's only exciting during the two months of summer where you can go fishing and climbing and off-roading. I went snow machining this year and, although the cold didn't get to me like it did others, I found it a little tedious with all the safety guidelines & all. "Punch the envelope :D "

As for the movie with the line "two things from Texas...," there were two, actually. The first being Full Metal Jacket (great movie to watch after you graduate Basic) and the second being Officer and a Gentleman. Both great movies (for separate reasons).
 
Originally posted by panther
I seem to remember a film in which a drill instructer said that only two things came from Texas - But I don't want to wind up Bandit Loaf.

Yeah that came for the movie Full Metal Jacket. The drill instructor said the only two things that come from Texas are steers and queers(no offense LOAF:) ).
 
Originally posted by OriginalPhoenix

Indeed. The Prowler (and the USAF EF-111) are among the premier electronic warfare platforms in the world. One of the ways they jam enemy radar is by producing immense amounts of "noise", effectively putting so much crap on the view screens that the operator can't begin to decipher which are the real targets.

Electronic warfare is a very cool field. I went over to the east cost to interview with a large Defense contractor and was shown around (couldn't see the really neat stuff - security clearance and all) but they showed us around their 'museum' of sorts. It housed all of their projects since the early 50' s and some of the EW pods were some of them. The VP had a picture that he was pretty proud of that showed 2 F-4's, one almost on top, of the other with flak all around except in the area surrounding the planes. If you look alittle closer, you see that the bottom F-4 has an EW pod hanging off of each wing. It was clear that one fly-boy was going to be buying a pint for the other later that night. :D
 
Here's what I know. The US used F-4Gs and EF-111 Ravens for defence suppression and jamming respectively. The Navy had its A-6 and A-7s. Shortly after the Gulf War they started retiring these planes. IIRC the F-4Gs went in 1994 and the EF-111s in 1996. The A-7s left service shortly after the Gulf War ended and the A-6s were also retired about 1996-7. That pretty much left only the EA-6Bs.

Currently the USAF seems to rely on F-16CJ Viper Weasels for Wild Weasel missions while the Navy will acquire F/A-18G Growlers for Wild Weasel. But it does seem to be expensive business. The USSR only constructed 20 Su-24MP electronic warfare planes, the Soviet equivalent of the EF-111.
 
Hi,

We Brits use a variant of the Tornado (ECR?) fitting with ALARM missiles, but I don't have a clue how many there are.

Cheers
 
Penguin and Pheonix -

How did you know all the specs on these aircraft? Every term paper I wrote in high school was on air power since WWII (even though that was 4 years ago, kindof dates me huh?) and even I don't know the stuff your posting. Please, do tell.

:)
 
Originally posted by Viper61


Here's some interesting trivia I picked up the other day. Does anyone know what the original Wild Weasel F-4's job description was in Korea/Vietnam?

Hmm?
I thought the venerable F-105 got that 'choice' bit of duty first. Minor point, I know, but still...

Anyway, just for whomever is interested, there was actually a real, live POEM, of all things, written about wild weasel duty, that I saw once.

Wild Weasel, Wild Weasel
They call me by name.
I fly up on Thud Ridge
And play the big game.

(a line I forgot - sorry :( )
And hide behind the hills.
Then dodge all the missiles
And go for the kills.

I don't think it had a name attached to it when I read it.
 
Viper61: Surely you're kidding? Everything I know comes from reading various publications from Janes Information Group (nothing detailed, just summaries of military equipment), 2 World Air Power journals (bloody expensive :( ) and various other books on the subject. The flight simulation Advanced Tactical Fighters and Fighters Anthology were also useful :)
 
Originally posted by Col.Dom
HAHA! Same here, Thymerlord! "See unique and exciting places... like Texas.

Take part in important taskings that make you a part of the mission... like mopping the hangar floor and dusting wooden furniture.

Do a multitude of exciting activities that none of your peers will ever be able to say they have... which is nothing we're showing here, because you won't fly jets or drop bombs or transport troops while you fire chaff & flare as an enlisted grunt."

Boo to that :(
i tried to get in but i found out i was 4f bad vision.
remember get it in writing from the recruiter.
 
Originally posted by Penguin
2 World Air Power journals (bloody expensive :( )

Expensive!? Wow. I get 'im pretty cheap (around $7.00).

Well, now that I think of it, I am "part of," Air Power... so I guess that qualifies me for a discount ;)

Still, when you say expensive- by how much??

Battler Hawke: Yeah, I know I should have got everything in writing from my recruiter. Stupid me didn't. The guy seemed too nice and sincere to be the "weave tales and tell you what you want to hear," type of guy.

Also, my eyesight may keep me from flying the good stuff. Either I have to get it waived or inherit a handsome sum of money and get the corrective surgery (which requires another waiver all its own). So far, though, things look doubtful....

Don't you hate how discriminating it is! In order to keep their numbers up, the USAF accepts people with college GPAs of 2.0 into pilot training! I'm going to write the Chief of Staff of the Air Force and the President (who I shook hands with this Saturday YEAH :D ) about considering changing the old eyesight rules for pilots in the military.

Go me!
 
Col.Dom: Let's see now. After converting NZ$ into Greenbacks it comes out to US$28-35. I had to pay NZ$60-70 and I figured it wasn't worth it because I only wanted only 1, or 2 articles, and I'll admit I'm not that much of an enthusiast. But I suppose I shouldn't whine since I've spent much more on anime DVDs :o

Finally recruiters are professionals at getting suckers, like you, into the military so don't feel so bad. Besides if someone didn't sweep little bits of crap off the ground, some smartass pilot might take one up the intake on takeoff. Face it, you save lives everyday you pick up crap, you just don't know it :)
 
Originally posted by Viper61
Penguin and Pheonix -

How did you know all the specs on these aircraft? Every term paper I wrote in high school was on air power since WWII (even though that was 4 years ago, kindof dates me huh?) and even I don't know the stuff your posting. Please, do tell. :)
I can't remember any of the term papers I wrote in high school...how's that date ME?

Seriously, I've been studying military aviation for some 25 years. A good deal of the info I spew is almost second nature to me. When I have a good idea of the accuracy, but am not sure, I look it up in my expansive library.

When you love something, it makes recollection all that much easier.

BTW, that's PhOEnix. :)
 
Originally posted by Penguin

Finally recruiters are professionals at getting suckers, like you, into the military so don't feel so bad. Besides if someone didn't sweep little bits of crap off the ground, some smartass pilot might take one up the intake on takeoff. Face it, you save lives everyday you pick up crap, you just don't know it :)

Since you put it that way, I feel a lot prouder :rolleyes:

HAHAHA :p
 
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