WC3 Final Mission
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mpanty
Keen Commander
How's that? If you go after Hobbes, Vaquero dies ok, but where? In space in a fighter or on board the Victory? I don't understand it doesn't make sense...
So what you're saying is if you launch after Hobbes, Vaquero is out there in space and tries to stop Hobbes before you, and then gets killed? And if you stay on the Victory, Vaquero (still in space) chooses NOT to go after Hobbes?
Are you sure about that. I just played the game and my impression (from Eisens chewing out) was that the Victory was attacked while I was on my revenge jaunt and Vaquero was killed during that attack.Originally posted by Bandit LOAF
Well, Hobbes kills Vaquero...
But the Kilrathi do attack the Victory while you're away -- that's where you meet Stalker for the first time (the non-repeating one).
Bandit LOAF
Long Live the Confederation!
I'm pretty sure of that <G>
Yeah, if you don't go after Hobbes, Vaquero doesn't try to stop him either...
Yeah, if you don't go after Hobbes, Vaquero doesn't try to stop him either...
By the time I got to that point where you are cloaked and run into Hobbes, I didnt have ANY wingmen!! They sort of just vanished as I went along thru the nav points! Started out with 4, had 4 wingmen by the time I hit the first refuel depot, then after that, at each nav point, one wingman at a time would vanish after the nav was cleared out! By the time I got to the 2nd refuel depot, I had one wingman, then by the time I got to the 3rd nav point where you meet up with Hobbes, no wingmen in sight! They went MIA!
RFBurns
[Edited by RFBurns on 03-28-2001 at 13:24]
RFBurns
[Edited by RFBurns on 03-28-2001 at 13:24]
Bandit LOAF
Long Live the Confederation!
Yep, the game doesn't allow wingmen to make it to the waypoint with Thrakhath -- ships respawn in each mission until the wingmen die (one per leg).
Mekt-Hakkikt
Mpanty's bane
I think you are supposed to lose all of your wingmen during the last mission.
In the WC3 novel (in which Blair goes after Hobbes)Hobbes shoots Vaquero down, who was also in pursuit of Hobbes (Blair is even more or less ordered by Paladin to hunt down Hobbes). In the game however, where you are *not* supposed to chase Hobbes but do it anyway, Vaquero is shot down immediately when you reach the Victory AFTER having shot down Hobbes.
In the WC3 novel (in which Blair goes after Hobbes)Hobbes shoots Vaquero down, who was also in pursuit of Hobbes (Blair is even more or less ordered by Paladin to hunt down Hobbes). In the game however, where you are *not* supposed to chase Hobbes but do it anyway, Vaquero is shot down immediately when you reach the Victory AFTER having shot down Hobbes.
Hmm, I'm assuming that when you say "someone who KNOWS this" you are indicating that I wouldn't have a clue?? I wonder should I be offended
Anyone who's played WC3 and can follow a plotline would KNOW that Vaquero gets killed in the attack on the Victory while you're away. LOAF's burden is heavy enough as it is, responding to all us ignorant wingnuts, surely we don't have to appeal to a higher authority on a matter as simple as this !
Ah I actually didn't read all the rest of the posts before I replied to that last one (a bad habit of mine). I was only referring to the game ... not having read the book. I didn't realise that the book claims Hobbes killed Vaquero. My apologies.
As for thinking that was what Hobbie was getting at ... well I don't think even LOAF would claim to know what goes on in another person's mind.
Hey has anyone else experienced this? I always send my wingmen home before they die in the last mission (I'm such a kind bloke ), but after the second refuel, even if you've already sent your last wingman home, he magically appears again when you take off, and you have to send him home again ("home! I said HOME! boy!"). Weird.
As for thinking that was what Hobbie was getting at ... well I don't think even LOAF would claim to know what goes on in another person's mind.
Hey has anyone else experienced this? I always send my wingmen home before they die in the last mission (I'm such a kind bloke
), but after the second refuel, even if you've already sent your last wingman home, he magically appears again when you take off, and you have to send him home again ("home! I said HOME! boy!"). Weird.
mpanty
Keen Commander
Argh!!
Another part where the novel comes in to confuse people!!I won't start another argument with LOAF (
), but I'll just say this: it seems very weird that Vaquero's choice to hunt down Hobbes is linked to yours. It would make much more sense to me, that Vaquero is killed while the Kilrathi attack the Victory during your fight with Hobbes...
Speaking of the novel, it was written after the game, correct? If so, why is it so different from the game? I mean, half the details have changed
P.S. mpanty- What I meant was what bw_dave said. I was referring to the fact that chasing Hobbes causes the death of Vaquero and that it is easier to kill Hobbes later. He dies after a pair of missiles like I said. Hope that clears up some confusion.
P.S. mpanty- What I meant was what bw_dave said. I was referring to the fact that chasing Hobbes causes the death of Vaquero and that it is easier to kill Hobbes later. He dies after a pair of missiles like I said. Hope that clears up some confusion.
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AHA! But so does Thrakhath!!
Hence if you kill Hobbes before, you don't have to fight Thrakhath at the end either: you just select salvo of missiles, uncloak behind him, and drop the gifts...
Of course, that's highly cowardly... [/B][/QUOTE]
Well you can recloak, if I remember. Rinse and repeat.
AHA! But so does Thrakhath!!
Hence if you kill Hobbes before, you don't have to fight Thrakhath at the end either: you just select salvo of missiles, uncloak behind him, and drop the gifts...
Of course, that's highly cowardly... [/B][/QUOTE]
Well you can recloak, if I remember. Rinse and repeat
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mpanty
Keen Commander
Nope!! You can cloak only once normally, after you decloak that's it!!Originally posted by Hobbie
Well you can recloak, if I remember. Rinse and repeat
The reason why you're able to cloak again on the surface of Kilrah, is due to a bug that apparently resets the mission data when you go from space to a planet...
I don't know if you get a new load of missiles (probably not), but you do get the cloaking ability once again.
Hence you can make the trench run all cloaked, no need to fight Ekapshis...
(in WC IV, you even get a new load of missile decoys when you go to a planet).
Yeah I know about cloaking in the trench, but I guess I never tried to recloak in space. Thanks for letting me know. Still kinda fun though to pop out of nowhere and blast the heir to the Kilrathi throne . Also, you don't get new missiles or fuel when you change settings. It is really annoying though, to have to reset power settings and guns whenever you are on a planet. Especially if there is a welcoming committee of about 10 Ekapshi.
[Edited by Hobbie on 03-28-2001 at 21:41]
. Also, you don't get new missiles or fuel when you change settings. It is really annoying though, to have to reset power settings and guns whenever you are on a planet. Especially if there is a welcoming committee of about 10 Ekapshi.[Edited by Hobbie on 03-28-2001 at 21:41]
