The movie doesn't treat death any special way. The movie illustrates a peculiarity in how pilots aboard the Tiger Claw handle the death of their shipmates.Originally posted by Ghost
No, I´m not saying that the movie was crap, only the treatment of the death.
Firstly, I never said anything about the movie, but sorry for "hurting your brain". I simply stated I agreed with Ghost on the concept that pretending a person didn't exist because he died in battle is bad.Originally posted by Bandit LOAF
AHH! You people are hurting my brain! You can't complain about how Angel treated the dead when THE MOVIE ALREADY DID SO!
Originally posted by mpanty
And yes, I do realize that thanks to Blair, Angel's and the others' original attitude changes, but the whole friggin' BAD point is that they think this way in the first place, that they don't realise how wrong it is by themselves (until Blair comes by).
Why in the world would you do that when the movie does it already, and then claim that the device which the movie uses to illustrate the morals you so proudly tout is one of the movie's downfalls? It makes no sense.Originally posted by mpanty
Yeah I know... we weren't part of the action so we can't really feel the same way they would have felt.
But as much we are sitting confortably in our chairs, it doesn't mean we can't put forth reasons on why their reasoning is bad, ...
So what you're saying is that we can't discuss a moral that "is already discussed in the movie", just to avoid repetition because we've both seen it? We're just talking here, if the movie says what I'm saying fine. I'm just debating on the matter here.Originally posted by Frosty
Why in the world would you do that when the movie does it already...
I really don't see how the morals I put forth (really no need to add "proudly" ) are a "downfall"... the bad part is Angel's way of thinking, and Blair's intervention puts her and the others on the right track. That's more like a positive improvement...
...and then claim that the device which the movie uses to illustrate the morals you so proudly tout is one of the movie's downfalls? It makes no sense.
Originally posted by mpanty
I really don't see how the morals I put forth (really no need to add "proudly" ) are a "downfall"... the bad part is Angel's way of thinking, and Blair's intervention puts her and the others on the right track. That's more like a positive improvement...
Originally posted by Frosty
Why in the world would you do that when the movie does it already, and then claim that the device which the movie uses to illustrate the morals you so proudly tout is one of the movie's downfalls? It makes no sense.
Originally posted by Bob McDob
More sense than arguing over why The Plan was bad, even though WC4 makes it blatently obvious why?
Arrrrrrrrrghhh!! At first, I NEVER said anything about the movie, I was just agreeing with Ghost on the concept we've been talking about, on the concept itself, not its role in the movie...Originally posted by Bandit LOAF
The difference is that there's no fringe group going "Hey! The way they treat death in the Wing Commander movie is great! I sure love that!". mpanty and company are screaming at a blank wall.
Originally posted by Mav23
I know... but that's what makes me the loveable oaf that I am!