Someone finish this for me

star trek has many fighters. sol system has fighter squadrons in orbit around jupiter i think.

and the dreadnaught class i dont recall seeing in the series/movies. i only saw them in a game, missouri class dreadnought and yamato class dreadnaught.

anyway, does wc have frigates? IIRC it does... but i cant remember class or ship names or anything. and what makes them different from destroyers, what makes destroyers different from cruisers? i thought it was just heavier weapons, but im not sure.
 
Destroyers are quicker, lighter and more easily produced than cruisers.

Frigates *do* exist in Wing Commander -- they're a bit larger and a bit more specialized (ie, either carrying fighters or being a missile frigate and so forth) than the destroyers and cruisers.
 
Going back

Going back 4 posts:

a "Star Destroyer" can be one of these: (with WC conversions)
Imperial class Star Destroyer - Frigate
Imperial 2 class Star Destroyer - Frigate
Victory class Star Destroyer - Destroyer
Victory 2 class Star Destroyer - Destroyer
Interdictor class Star Destroyer (never seen in movie) - NONE (it stops enemy ships from entering hyperspace)
Super class Star Destroyer - Dreadnaught
 
A victory is less powerful than an Imperial yet you have the imp equivilant to a worse wc ship since in WC3 the frigate had 3 laser turrets and 2 ff while the destroyer had 9 turrets and capmis
 
Is this now a Star Wars vs Wing Commander ?
Because if it is remenber this rule.

3) Due to the near-certainty of "(something) vs (something)" threads stirring up flames/discord, especially if they involve other sci-fi universes, such threads are specifically banned.

Star Wars and Wing commander universes are diferent, saying that the Star Wars Victory class Star Destroyer is similar to the Wing Commander Caernaven Class Frigate is imposible.
In Star Wars universe Star Destoyers (any class) are used like cruisers and carriers.
 
No, Dragon, this is not SW vs WC. This is merely a dissertational foray into the wonderful world of ship class distinctions and comparisons between space-sim games.

Dreadnaughts, classically, are large, fast ships with many large guns of an equal caliber. The original Dreadnought, built in 1906, basically brought about the battleship revolution that culminated in the Battle of Jutland, 1916. The idea behind a dreadnaught, and battleships in general, is to be able to absorb more damage than it can put out, while still putting out more damage than any other ship available. WC stretches the definition by giving the Concordia a great number of fighters, and the phase-transit cannon. It's far too powerful for its armour (listed in manual as weaker than Fralthra, tied with Ralatha, but in actual stat, somewhat stronger)...I think a better definition might be Battlecruiser/Carrier - except it's damn slow. A battlecruiser is like a battleship except they take off a lot of the armour in an attempt to make it go faster (The Hood was a battlecruiser). Maybe make something up - Heavy Battle Carrier?

oh - the Sivar was also called a dreadnaught - perhaps the WC definition involves a highly devastating mega-cannon...but the Kilrathi Dreadnaught from WC3 doesn't have one, does it?
 
So, you are now making up ships classes designations, I am going to ad the super Destroyer/Cruiser/Carrier/Transport/Liner/science ship for the Midway.
 
Dred: great point, but most space sims tend to consider dreadnoughts as purely the most powerful ships. And the Connie had 8 AMG's which do qualify as her heavy and equal armorment. The fighters are a necessity in the world of space combat, because otherwise dreadnoughts would be useless as they are in modern navies (case in point, world wide there is not a single battleship in active service). By adding the fighters the Confederation dreadnought as well as the Taimut and the Kilrathi Dreadnought (WC3) now have defencive capabilities agaist other fighter attacks so that they have the ability to close with other cap ships and engage. As for the PTC that is a weapon that from my understanding could only be mounted on a Confederation and had a usefull quality in increasing the capship to capship fighting capabilities of the Confederation Dreadnought.
 
By using drednott's rationale, the Behemoth would also be a dreadnaught due to it's devastating weapon. Correct?

(this is regardless of the classical naval definition of a dreadnaught)
 
The Phase Transit Cannon is a smaller version of the Sivar's weapon -- capable of destroying another capital ship with a single hit.

(I believe that *all* WC dreadnoughts, with the exception of Behemoth, carry fighters).
 
Originally posted by Antman
Someone please finish this for me (I haven't checked the Ship Database yet)

Tiger's Claw - Bengal Class
Concordia - ?????
Victory - ?????
Lexington - ?????
Intrepid - ?????
Midway - ?????
Cerberus - ?????
Behemoth - Behemoth Class - I Think
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Concordia - Confederation Class
Victory - Ranger Class
Lexington - Concordia Class
Intrepid - Durango Class Heavy Cruiser/Carrier
Midway - Midway Class
Cerberus - Quick Strike Cruiser
Bememoth - ? I think just Behemoth Class
 
Right, i got a little confused. But what about the behemoth ? It's own class, or was it a dreadnought ?
 
The Behemoth was the first of its kind. That makes it a Behemoth-class vessel. The hard part is figuring out what the Behemoth-class is.

As you all know, there's the class name and then there's the type of ship that class is. For example, the TCS Cerberus is a Hades-class strike cruiser. The name of the class (and the first ship in that class) is Hades. Strike cruiser is the type of ship it is.

Now, back to your question. If you consider the Behemoth a deadnought, then it's a Behemoth-class deadnought. If you don't, then that's your opinion. Regardless of the type, it is a Behemoth-class ship.
 
I thought i'd read somewhere anout the Bememoth-Class Dreadnought. But eg. the Confederation-Class Dreadnought, this would be more easy to understand (can't fine the right words to explain)
 
There can be different types of dreadnoughts. The class names are there so that you can tell the difference between similar classes.

For example, there are Exeter-class destroyers and Gilgamesh-class destroyers. They're both destroyers, but different classes.
 
I personally don;t think there exists a type of ship that the behemoth falls into, perhaps it is a Behemoth class Prototype. or Behemoth class planet killer or Behemoth class heavy space artillery.
 
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