Some ships Sizes
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Haesslich
Spaceman
https://www.wcnews.com/ships/wc1drayman.shtml
https://www.wcnews.com/ships/wc2starbase.shtml
The first two are listed in the database. The second item below the name is 'Length'.
No measurements are listed for the Paradigm in the WC: Privateer manual, however.
https://www.wcnews.com/ships/wc2starbase.shtml
The first two are listed in the database. The second item below the name is 'Length'.
No measurements are listed for the Paradigm in the WC: Privateer manual, however.
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Drayman link is OK, I was looking for Privateer Civilian Ships, we have to fix in:
https://www.wcnews.com/ships/p1drayman.shtml
Related to Caernaven the link that you send is wrong
, that is on a starbase.
Anyway Thanks, I'll follow searching the info.
https://www.wcnews.com/ships/p1drayman.shtml
Related to Caernaven the link that you send is wrong
, that is on a starbase.Anyway Thanks, I'll follow searching the info.
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Bandit LOAF
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Drayman class Transport - 96 m / 2,000 tonnes
Caernaven class Frigate - 620 m / 28,000 tonnes
There is no canon size data for the Paradigm.
Caernaven class Frigate - 620 m / 28,000 tonnes
There is no canon size data for the Paradigm.
Bandit LOAF
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The Kamekh is an uprated corvette, the Paradigm is a "state of the art" destroyer. It's probably larger.
Bandit LOAF
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The dealy on the bottom looks kind of like a flight deck.
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Can someone fill me in about that caernaven-class ? I only know the one
from WC4, which is labeled a frigate-class, and is practically a better armed corvette.
In WC3 (in the game, I don't know the romans) we never encountered one, but
the database say so.
In the Database it has the same picture as the sheffield-destroyer, but it is 130m
longer, 9000 tons heavier and has only 30% the firepower of the the sheffield.
Even the tallahashee-class is bigger.
Could it be, that it's main-purpose isn't as a war-ship ?
Thanks for the info.
from WC4, which is labeled a frigate-class, and is practically a better armed corvette.
In WC3 (in the game, I don't know the romans) we never encountered one, but
the database say so.
In the Database it has the same picture as the sheffield-destroyer, but it is 130m
longer, 9000 tons heavier and has only 30% the firepower of the the sheffield.
Even the tallahashee-class is bigger.
Could it be, that it's main-purpose isn't as a war-ship ?
Thanks for the info.
Bandit LOAF
Long Live the Confederation!
Caernaven is actually the name for the frigates which appear in Wing Commander IV... it was originally from the novelization, which calls the "pirate" frigate in the Hellespont System Caernaven-class. As you already surmised, the specifications for the frigate are actually from Wing Commander III.
The use of the Sheffield-type graphic for the Caernaven in the ships database is a bit of an in-joke. When Paladin arrives on the Victory (Alcor series), there is a Sheffield-type model labelled 'FRIGATE' in the game at the Victory nav point.
As for the purpose of frigates in the Wing Commander universe. The Aces Club has cried fowl over the fact that they're larger than destroyers and cruisers... as "real" frigates are a smaller type of ship. My take, however, is that frigates are larger for several reasons:
- They use expendible munitions versus rechargable lasers. We see missile frigates lobbing multiple CSMs around in WC4.
- They double as transports. We see a group of frigates rescuing endangered colonists in the Circe System in WC4.
The use of the Sheffield-type graphic for the Caernaven in the ships database is a bit of an in-joke. When Paladin arrives on the Victory (Alcor series), there is a Sheffield-type model labelled 'FRIGATE' in the game at the Victory nav point.
As for the purpose of frigates in the Wing Commander universe. The Aces Club has cried fowl over the fact that they're larger than destroyers and cruisers... as "real" frigates are a smaller type of ship. My take, however, is that frigates are larger for several reasons:
- They use expendible munitions versus rechargable lasers. We see missile frigates lobbing multiple CSMs around in WC4.
- They double as transports. We see a group of frigates rescuing endangered colonists in the Circe System in WC4.
LOAF, I'm confushed now, you say on previous post that the frigate have 620m, then I was surprised because in any fleet a frigate is a medium ship with high soldiers capabilities (I say in our times)
Now, if Starman say that in WC3 database the size is 130m/9000tons, why you did response 620m/28000tons?
BTW, did you read on my request about Perry images in the other thread?
Thanks!
Now, if Starman say that in WC3 database the size is 130m/9000tons, why you did response 620m/28000tons?
BTW, did you read on my request about Perry images in the other thread?
Thanks!
Bandit LOAF
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Starman says the frigate i s 130m *longer* than the Sheffield-type (/9,000 tonnes *heavier*).
I didn't see the Perry images request - which thread is it in?
I didn't see the Perry images request - which thread is it in?
Quarto
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Well, real frigates have only been a small type of ship for a few decades - back in the days of sailing ships, frigates were the equivalent of modern cruisers, and quite a few people were upset when the term 'frigate' got applied in modern times to ships smaller than destroyers. So, the Aces Club had no reason to be upsetBandit LOAF said:
.Both seem reasonable. I would guess that frigates were, before the war, supposed to fill a niche similar to that later taken up by CVEs - to be relatively powerful but expendable ships that can be used to escort convoys, resupply larger vessels on the frontlines, and to also be able to raid behind enemy lines, harrassing enemy shipping. This would explain why we see so few frigates in WC - fighters with anti-capship weaponry have simply made them obsolete as a class.