Lexington Class in the WCM???

frostytheplebe

frostytheplebe

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I am in the middle of watching the movie when I saw the diagrams of the Confed ships in the Concordia battle group heading for Earth... one of them looked very distinctly like the Lexington class carrier. Do we know if any were in that fleet??
 
No. we don't know if there were any. Here's the shot from the movie. I'm not sure I'd call any of them a lexington-like class ship.
 

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... yeah now that I see them up close... I think the second one which i only saw briefly reminded me of it.

Why does the second one say that the Tiger's Claw is commanded by "Admiral Gerald"? Gerald, wasn't he a commander? If its not the same guy, I'dve thought the ship would've been part of Vega sector command under Wilson?
 
frostytheplebe said:
... yeah now that I see them up close... I think the second one which i only saw briefly reminded me of it.

Why does the second one say that the Tiger's Claw is commanded by "Admiral Gerald"? Gerald, wasn't he a commander? If its not the same guy, I'dve thought the ship would've been part of Vega sector command under Wilson?
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Hehe yeah, I noticed that too and was going to mention it but forgot. It's just a typo like the "Admiral Towlyn" one. I don't think they ever really expected people to stop and read what it said:)

On the other hand. Maybe there's another Gerald who is an admiral that is commanding the fleet the Tiger Claw is a part of! (not likely but it's a fun idea)
 
I'm sure there's a lot of fluff written in scenes which are only shown for a brief moment in movies. Like that text in the first picture, it doesn't make much sense to me: "Crew capacity for ships is equal to no less than fourteen people on a side at one time." Huh? :confused:
 
The thing that has always interested me about these screens is how unusual the names for the ships are - one or two of them are obscure things that actually exist... but a few of them seem to be terms which are completely unique to this screen.

(To unfairly reply to something AD said on IRC about the suggestion that the names could indicate the ships' classes - it seems unlikely upon consideration, since there are multiple names for ships with the same diagram.)

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Bandit LOAF said:
The thing that has always interested me about these screens is how unusual the names for the ships are - one or two of them are obscure things that actually exist... but a few of them seem to be terms which are completely unique to this screen.

(To unfairly reply to something AD said on IRC about the suggestion that the names could indicate the ships' classes - it seems unlikely upon consideration, since there are multiple names for ships with the same diagram.)

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While there is probably never going to be a way to know the actual intent of the names, we do know though that the battle group consists of way more than six ships there are multilple ships of the concordia type ship and the crew apparently also modeled a cruiser which I haven't been able to pinpoint in the movie though it might be similar to the second one down on the list if the it's the ship I'm thinking it might be.

The other thing I was hypothesizing about was how the ship selected on the left (in the blue box) is the same as the concordia on the right. It's also convenient that each ship in the list is of a progressively smaller type. So it's almost like they are selecting a class on the left and displaying ships in that category on the right.
So as unlikely as it may be it does appear at a glance to be a viable option.

Edit: At a second glance though the Cahillier and Walleyer do look about the same size and same type, So I guess you are probably right. And the picture under Walleyer on the right doesn't match the one on the left, which on the left is called Toadia.
 
Could it be the names of the commanders of those ships? My first thought was ship class too, but it didn't make much sense when I looked at it again.
 
Jason_Ryock said:
Could it be the names of the commanders of those ships? My first thought was ship class too, but it didn't make much sense when I looked at it again.
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I don't think commanders makes any more sense than ship classes. The easiest explanation, like LOAF said is ship name, but even then there's the seemingly different pictures for the Walleyer.
 
Is this from the HD version? I Read them as: Bracker, Toacka, Sommeria, Cahillier and Walleyer. Walleyer and Sommeria are, at the very least, actual words. Cahillier and Walleyer are the same ship... as are the Toacka and the ship at the bottom right that doesn't have a name. Concordia and Bracker are the same, too.

My guess is that the actual rough ship meshes were from earlier on in development when they planned to have a complex fleet visible... and that those plans were dropped in favor of a much-easier-on-the-renderers fleet of Concordia duplicates.
 
Bandit LOAF said:
Is this from the HD version? I Read them as: Bracker, Toacka, Sommeria, Cahillier and Walleyer. Walleyer and Sommeria are, at the very least, actual words. Cahillier and Walleyer are the same ship... as are the Toacka and the ship at the bottom right that doesn't have a name. Concordia and Bracker are the same, too.

My guess is that the actual rough ship meshes were from earlier on in development when they planned to have a complex fleet visible... and that those plans were dropped in favor of a much-easier-on-the-renderers fleet of Concordia duplicates.
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YEah, it's from the HD version and it deffinitely looks like a D to me... The C on Cahillier is way more rounded for example.

Also the picture associated with Toadia or Toacka seems the most like one of the ships we see in the fleet that is similar to the concordia and is possibly the cruiser model they supposedly made. I'll have to take a closer look when I get home later.
 
I don't think either of them is the Concordia, but I can better see the top one *becoming* the Concordia... Toadia/Toacka seems to be designed around a chin turret that the Concordia doesn't have.
 
Where "side" is defined as any area X where two or more decks converge on a single turboshaft Y surrounded by the corners of compartments a, b, c as the limit of insanity approaches awesome.
 
Vinman said:
I think that the one in the middle looks like the carrier from Armada/Super Wing Commander.
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You raise an interesting point which I hadn't considered before - the middle one might *be* a carrier. Presumably Tolwyn's 14th Fleet includes actual carriers... and that certainly looks a lot more like one than it does a battleship.

Someday someone will have to do nice movie-style 3D images of these ships.
 
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