Hobbe's treason

[Delance]

On WC2 SO1 Blair, Hobbes and Paladin are able to capture Thrakath. But he escapes on stranges circunstances due to a "power failure' of Paladin's freighter. More info on this mission can be fonud here.

Thrakath says he didn't kill hobbes because "They lost power to the brig, just as Ralgha locked me in. I did not hit him too hard. Killing someone from behind is dishonorable... And Ralgha is one of my few relatives who has not tried to kill me. Now I am borrowing Ralgha's ship. I hope you do not mind."

How peciluar. Was that a coincidence or did Thrakkath use Hobbes "hidden true personality" to get out of trouble? Could he turn it on and off? Also, would that mean that Hobbes eventual treason was already envisioned by this time?

It would be very cool, like the deleted newsbrief about Tolwynn WC3.

 

[Quarto]

No, Thrakhath did not use Hobbes' hidden personality to get out of trouble - he hit him and knocked him out, obviously . Still, the treason may have already been planned at that point, considering the way Freedom Flight begins.

 

[TCSTigersClaw]

His Hidden Personality used in Wc3 for the First time,with the "Hear Of the Tiger" Trigger.What you are talking is a coincidence

 

[Delance]

Originally posted by TCSTigersClaw
His Hidden Personality used in Wc3 for the First time,with the "Hear Of the Tiger" Trigger.What you are talking is a coincidence

I think that at least the fact that Thrakkath spared Hobbe's life was no coincidence. Honorable? Yeah, right, he didn't want to lose his spy.

Or perhaps Hobbes had some secret programming that would prevent him from actually killing Thrakkath directly. Remember what Thrakkath said, Hobbes was one of his few relatives who has not tried to kill him. How odd is this from a guy who joined the other side of the war?

 

[Aries]

Originally posted by Delance
I think that at least the fact that Thrakkath spared Hobbe's life was no coincidence. Honorable? Yeah, right, he didn't want to lose his spy.

of course he didn't want to lose his spy, but do you think that he would tell blair that he didn't kill hobbes cause hobbes is a kilrathi agent? no, of course not, so he says that killing from behind is dishonorable

Or perhaps Hobbes had some secret programming that would prevent him from actually killing Thrakkath directly. Remember what Thrakkath said, Hobbes was one of his few relatives who has not tried to kill him. How odd is this from a guy who joined the other side of the war?

not very odd considering that few confed pilots flew against thrakhath. hobbes is just one of the many who haven't flown against him

Also, would that mean that Hobbes eventual treason was already envisioned by this time?

hobbes's treason was planned by this point, considering that it would have to be planned if they were to put an identity overlay on him

 

[Delance]

Originally posted by Aries
not very odd considering that few confed pilots flew against thrakhath. hobbes is just one of the many who haven't flown against him

What? No, you didn't understand. I was talking about Thrakath relatives... Not confed pilots. Hobbes was both, but it's a rare thing. Most of Thrakath's relatives tried to kill him. Hobbes was an important Kilrathi noble and officer for a long time before joining confed.

hobbes's treason was planned by this point, considering that it would have to be planned if they were to put an identity overlay on him

Hehe, planned by the authors of the game, of course. Like the Tolwyn newsbrief.

 

[Aries]

IIRC, the attempts on thrakhath's life were made after hobbes defected to confed. back when he still was with the empire, the war was still going well for the cats. they only tried to kill thrakhath when the war shifted against them

 

[TCSTigersClaw]

Hey,Before Hobbes joined the Confed,he was a Kilrathi Warrior.Maybe Thrakkath was reffering to that time.When Hobbes was still with the Kilrathi he didnt tried to murder Thrakkath or something....

 

[Col.Dom]

Originally posted by Delance
It would be very cool, like the deleted newsbrief about Tolwynn WC3.

Heh heh. I remember seeing that in the 3DO version and thinking it wasn't a deleted scene. That one's played after the Behemoth blows up. If I remember correctly, all those infobursts- exception being "this week's KIA"- made it to the 3DO version. Am I correct?

 

[TCSTigersClaw]

Yes,you are right.The PSX version included the "this week's KIA",but it was not as good as the 3dO version......

 

[Col.Dom]

Originally posted by TCSTigersClaw
... but it was not as good as the 3dO version......

I know! The 3DO version was definitely superior, which really surprises me. The PSX is vastly more powerful than the 3DO ever was, yet it came out with the lackluster version. I would've expected the PSX version to have been- at the very least- as polished as the 3DO version....

But the PSX one didn't even have the cockpits. Oh well, maybe they just didn't care enough to make it as good as they could [have]. Or perhaps because it wasn't as important a game as it was to the 3DO. If you were to ask me, WC3 was the flagship title of the 3DO. That game sold systems (as it sold one to me)

 

[Bandit LOAF]

The 3DO version was great *because* they realized that the system couldn't be just like a PC -- so they created an entirely new gameplay model. The PSX version struggled and struggled to look just like the game on the PC... and suffered as a result.

 

[Col.Dom]

Originally posted by Bandit LOAF
The 3DO version was great *because* they realized that the system couldn't be just like a PC -- so they created an entirely new gameplay model. The PSX version struggled and struggled to look just like the game on the PC... and suffered as a result.

Never quite thought of that. Excellent point, though