Confederation HQ - Jupiter Orbit

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This comes from Aeronautico asking for info for WCPedia...

What is the name of the Confed HQ in the Sol System? Does it have an official name? Also, is there any other information available on it?
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Thought I'd post it here so we can get all the information we have on it.
 
CONFED HQ

I remember a reference somewhere to Jupiter Station, but I can't remember where it came from (or if it even pertains to the massive HQ station).
 
Yes the one from WC4 and the WCP losing end game.

I believe it only gets called Confed HQ, but figured I'd post it here for Aero so that in case it was mentioned as something else in some piece of literature.
 
Wow, thanks guys, I appreciate this. How much do we know about that station? Also, I think it was in the WC3 intro?
 
Also, I think it was in the WC3 intro?
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Yes, as you return from vespus to meet up with Tolwyn where he assigns you to the victory, I thought that was thesame station.
 
The WC4 novel says it's Orion, a station that was in low Earth orbit during the war but was moved out to a Lagrange point for construction of the Vesuvius & St. Helens. The WC3 novel says there's a Confed HQ complex on Torgo 3, and implies that's where the conversation with Tolwyn took place (as Blair takes his shuttle ride to the Victory, which is also in Torgo).
 
ChrisReid said:
(as Blair takes his shuttle ride to the Victory, which is also in Torgo).
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Well in the game Intro Tolwyn says clearly that he assigns Blair "to the Victory in Orsini", and i belive game material outweights novel stuff.

As for the planet, I'm pretty sure it was meant to be Jupiter by the game's creators, and the station in WC4 was meant to be the same.
 
These are three different space stations.

- The station in Wing Commander III is, per the novelization, the Confederation headquarters at Torgo.

- The station in Wing Commander IV is Orion, at L5 in the Sol System. The name comes from the novelization, but the fact that it isn't orbiting Jupiter is evident in the game's intro: you follow Blair's shuttle past the outer planets and then Mars (and the Victory museum) to get there.

- The station in Wing Commander Prophecy is called 'Confed headquarters' in the official guide. The Secret Ops fiction makes reference to "Jupiter-1" station several times, but it isn't clear whether or not that's the same thing.
 
Bandit LOAF said:
These are three different space stations.

- The station in Wing Commander III is, per the novelization, the Confederation headquarters at Torgo.

- The station in Wing Commander IV is Orion, at L5 in the Sol System. The name comes from the novelization, but the fact that it isn't orbiting Jupiter is evident in the game's intro: you follow Blair's shuttle past the outer planets and then Mars (and the Victory museum) to get there.

- The station in Wing Commander Prophecy is called 'Confed headquarters' in the official guide. The Secret Ops fiction makes reference to "Jupiter-1" station several times, but it isn't clear whether or not that's the same thing.
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I'm going to contest the idea that it's evident in the WC4 intro though. The confusing thing seems to be that the game makers (or at least the people in charge of the CG) almost certainly intended it to be the same station in each case... and in each case the station is pretty much the same shape and is accompanied by art assets that are likely actually taken from Jupiter. So we have a jovian-like planet outside the station in WC3 as well as in the shot from wcp. From the novel, we know that the WC3 station can't be the same one, but The imagery with those two are obvious so I'll include one shot of each here:

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Wing commander 4 is a little more confusing. Though I do think you are mixing up shots from the race to Earth near the end of the game with the intro in which there's a neptune-like planet. In the intro, once blair and Maniac leave bluepoint station, we only ever see one planet with a large moon. Once their shuttle passes the orbital museum they veer off toward the the moon. The next shot is of their shuttle as it passes over the moon looking back at the large jupiter-like planet. The camera then pans around to the station comming up over the horizon of the moon. I'd wager that the next shots from the station itself are looking back at the planet.

WING COMMANDER 4
Note the small body over the museum, in the first shot:

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I guess it is possible that it's Orion in both Wing Commander IV and Wing Commander Prophecy; I was completely forgetting the fact that every planet has an L5 point.
 
I definitely think the stations in WC4 and Prophecy are one and the same. But there seems to still be confusion over WC3. Was that station in Torgo or Sol? One thing is for sure, all of the stations in question are the same class of station, they just look different at those different angles.
 
No fooling? Well, that does help me to a degree. Thanks. Does anybody know anything else about these massive stations? What is know and what isn't? These stations have never been fully profiled to my knowledge.
 
well we know a single shot from a massive plasma cannon can take one down. I presume a couple of torpedo hits can achieve similar results.
 
well we know a single shot from a massive plasma cannon can take one down. I presume a couple of torpedo hits can achieve similar results.
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That particular plasma weapon could take out an entire fleet in a single blow. (midway blew up a bug strike fleet with it, and the bugs blew a kilrathi carrier group to bits) You will need a lot of torpedoes for that!
 
AD said:
WING COMMANDER 4
Note the small body over the museum, in the first shot:
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Here's my take....The Orbital "Victory" Museum had nothing to do with the "Vesuvius" dock but the game would make you think they are located the at the same location.. But the CG rendering of them is waaaay off. They make the Victory look like a mammoth size...when in reality (game wise) it's less than half the size of the Vesuvius. For the WC4 Station I would imagine it's a large size. (They also don't show it being all that big) in the shot where your traveling to the station. It would just seems like the CG artist goofed. It happens.

Just remember when you were going to land on a planet in Privateer....They make that planet look so small.... And there is NO WAY your going...THAT FAST! to crash into it within like 1 sec. bwahaha
 
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