Confed capital

maestro876

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Where is the seat of the Confederation Government? As in, where does the President & cabinet reside and work from, the Senate, etc. I don't recollect whether Fleet Action stated specifically. Is it in Washington DC? I recall the defeat scenario in WC3 showing Kilrathi landing outside the Capitol building there, which appeared to still be in use, and isn't that where Blair flew to at the end of WCIV?
 
In WC4, when Blair goes to confront Tolwyn in front of the Senate, it shows him landing in what appears to be a futuristic Washington DC, and the Senate apparently meets in a building modeled after the current US Capitol building.
 
It's kind of weird that DC was not attacked during the A/M strikes that devastated other northern cities. You would think the kats would have gone for the seat of the government in order to cause some kind of temporary chaos. I mean they did already wipe out almost all the joint chiefs.

It does seem that DC is the capitol of the confederation. I want to recall that in the WC4 scene blair flies by the Washington monument before landing at the capital.
 
I was thinking the same thing, but I'm guessing they wanted to hit all the highest population areas instead to make sure every last person would be killed. The Confed government didn't seem like it posed much of a threat to them before considering how easy they fooled them and the military leaders were already dead or in combat, and they were going to kill off everyone else with radiation anyway.

That or maybe the cats wanted to go down in radiation suits later and smash the capital themselves with their own claws.
 
I vote for the second of those two theories. It just makes sense; the Cats are about as big a stickler as the Samurai were for taking their foes down in person.
 
I think they were aiming for destroying Air Defense centers, of which DC was apparently not one. But thanks for the input.
 
In FA and VoW it says something along the lines of how the kilrathi targeted key defense cities. Apparently in Earth's northern defense grid those cities played an important role.

They didn't plan to nuke earth right off the bat, Thrakhath wanted to use Earth for the next Sivar ceremony. After it was certain that the fleet was being beaten off were the ships lead ceremonial by Baron Jukaga to launch the thermonukes...

It's really to bad they had to blast Boston...probably the only way fenway park would ever come down :)
 
I didn't know that the Kilrathi actually once attacked Earth. I guess once again, I am still at a loss for having not read the books. Damn this time!
 
They've actually tried to attack it a few times (WCM, FA, and if we hadn't dropped the T-bomb the grand fleet was ready to strike)
 
Thrakhath wanted to use Earth for the next Sivar ceremony. After it was certain that the fleet was being beaten off were the ships lead ceremonial by Baron Jukaga to launch the thermonukes...

From what I read the Emporer wanted it to be preserved for the Sivar, so did Jukaga since he wanted the humans to survive and waiting for the Sivar would at least give humanity a chance. Thrakhath on the other hand was out for genocide, he had no intention of preserving any part of the human race from the very beginning. He wanted Earth a smoldering inferno from the word "go".

They've actually tried to attack it a few times (WCM, FA, and if we hadn't dropped the T-bomb the grand fleet was ready to strike)

And to see this hypothetical final strike that brings an end to humanity just play the losing story of WCIII. Fleet Action is the only time they actually succeed in attacking Earth and blowing holes in it though, assuming you go along with the real/winning story.

It's really to bad they had to blast Boston...probably the only way fenway park would ever come down

I was pretty depressed last time I was in Boston since there was a lot of talk of building a new stadium. If they ever did I'm sure Fenway would be preserved as a Museum at least though. I would hope so... The Kilrathi would've also blown up Old Iron Sides... the USS Constitution! That would be a blow to naval morale :)
 
Ok that's what it was...got the kats mixed up. Yeah I remember Thrakhath wanting to destroy earth just to piss off jukaga more and try and prevent him from attempting a coup during the false peace.

Fenway will never come down...they pack seats on the roof if they have too.....wait they already did...green monster seats are incredible....
 
Killing the leadership of the Confederation personally would make the Kilrathi victory more compleete that and its far easier to conquer when your enemy's leaders surrender
 
Deadeye79 said:
Killing the leadership of the Confederation personally would make the Kilrathi victory more compleete that and its far easier to conquer when your enemy's leaders surrender

How do dead people surrender? :D Besides, the Emperor just wanted Earth to celebrate the Sivar in after they were denied an actual war during the last one...
 
refer to aliied forces in the Phillipines region during WWII. It was easier for the invading forces to conquer by having the leadership of the opposition surrender. naturally anyone from Confed can expect execution but the principal remains. Also DC is not a massive producer of war materials in the mentioned period which was one of the larger factors in what constituted a target in the Battle of Earth
 
Deadeye79 said:
refer to aliied forces in the Phillipines region during WWII. It was easier for the invading forces to conquer by having the leadership of the opposition surrender. naturally anyone from Confed can expect execution but the principal remains. Also DC is not a massive producer of war materials in the mentioned period which was one of the larger factors in what constituted a target in the Battle of Earth

But as per your previous quote:

Deadeye79 said:
Killing the leadership of the Confederation personally would make the Kilrathi victory more compleete that and its far easier to conquer when your enemy's leaders surrender

How do dead people surrender? If you're killing the leaders of the Confederation personally, how do they surrender? Only they could surrender for Confed - individual planets could choose whether or not to surrender, but by that point the Kilrathi have devastated the Inner Worlds anyways, and could conceivably crush what resistance remains without any problems. They're also not into accepting surrenders, IIRC.

Beyond which, it's already been stated that the reason DC was not hit in the Battle of Earth was that the first wave of antimatter warheads were targeted on the defense centers of Earth, where enemy forces or control centers were located. DC was not such a center, and thus was left out of the first wave of attacks.
 
Washington DC isn't destroyed in Wing Commander IV for the same reason San Francisco isn't destroyed in the last episode of Voyager. :)
 
The one thing I am wondering about is why Confed didn't have some sort of phase shielding or 'star wars' system over Earth's major cities. You would think that Earth was always considered a primary target of the war. Did Confed not prepare Earth for a possible orbital bombardment?
 
I would guess that such a system would be astronomically expensive, both in terms of cost to build and maintain, and in the amount of energy it would require to generate a shield over once city, not to mention multiple cities.
 
Dragon1 said:
The one thing I am wondering about is why Confed didn't have some sort of phase shielding or 'star wars' system over Earth's major cities. You would think that Earth was always considered a primary target of the war. Did Confed not prepare Earth for a possible orbital bombardment?

Earth DID have a Star Wars system - remember, the Kilrathi antimatter missile bombardment targeted those defense installations, and overwhelmed the point-defenses that the planet had deployed. Think the Star Wars system meets the game Missile Command. We also saw it in action around Warsaw, where they started trying to shoot down missiles but were unsuccessful in doing so. There's also the Locanda IV incident in the WC3 novel, where point-defense was unable to hit the Skippers because they exploded too early, spreading the Pandemic all over Locanda.

As far as planetary shielding goes - we know it was deployed for Kilrah, but even then the Kilrathi were afraid of nukes launched from the Tarawa and her escorts, and were REALLY afraid of suicide strikes by all three ships. Judging from that data, the shields are relatively useless, at least where capship-launched weapons are concerned. Or, if they were really fearful of nukes being launched from Tarawa in Marine landing craft, perhaps those shield systems really WERE useless.
 
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