Carrier island towers

Dragon1

Dragon1

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On some fan based models of the Concordia-class and Ranger-class Carriers, I have noticed that the island tower is placed on the starboard side of the ship, when all canon references that I have seen places it on the port side.

TCS Victory CV40 (Ranger-class WC3/4),
TCS Lexington CV44 (Concordia-class WC4)
TCS Princeton CV48 (Concordia-class WC4)

All of these had there island towers on the port side? What gives?
The only Confed carriers that I have observed with starboard side towers were the Vesuvius-class.

Also, where did the Eagle-class Light Carriers come from? Were they referenced in the novels?

-Thanks
 
It's because when you extract the 3D model from the game it's a "mirror" image. I think it's been pointed out before, so I'm not sure why the mods keep doing it.

The TCS Eagle was an escort carrier from the WC3 novel.
 
In Saga one of them's on the right side... and one's on the left, whichever one's correct, I don't remember (and I'm not sure I care that much); it's the Concordia CV vs. the Ranger CVL, but I don't know why.
 
I forgot to mirror the Concordia-class model I'm using in Standoff, and nobody noticed it for a long long time. I haven't fixed it yet, either. :p
 
If I remember the release stuff from one of the carriers correctly, the modelers (or someone) decided to leave it that way for some reason... or maybe there's a long term plan to fix it. I don't know, and this was back before I joined anyway.

And it doesn't really matter, that much. The models are both really cool looking.
 
I was looking at the thread where the Ranger and Concordia models are compared a while ago and thought about saying something but I figured I was wrong so I didn't bother. As long as it looks good, and it looks great :)
 
Eagle class CVLs are mentioned in HoTT as being the first to attempt a t-bomb raid but were pushed back. The TCS Eagle eventually transfered Paladin and some excaliburs to the Victory so she could attempt another strike.

IIRC the Eagle got pretty beat up in the attempt on kilrah. it is a unique class of CVL designed from the keel up, no conversions like the Tarawa.
 
Jason_Ryock said:
So was the TCS Eagle part of the Tarawa-Type ships then? *Notes that he did NOT call them Tarawa-class*
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No, from what the WC3 novel suggests, it was a completely new ship design - a purpose-built escort carrier, with 'sleek, modern lines' and a similar configuration to a Ranger-class ship.
 
Moonsword said:
In Saga one of them's on the right side... and one's on the left, whichever one's correct, I don't remember (and I'm not sure I care that much); it's the Concordia CV vs. the Ranger CVL, but I don't know why.
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In Saga the ranger-class carriers have their tower on the left side, just like
in WC3.

The concordia-class from WC4 (the TCS-Lexington is a concordia-class carrier) was
just the same model as in WC3, only slightly bigger. Probably to save time and
money the designers of the WC4 simply recycled the old model instead of creating
a new one.

On the other hand, the Saga-Team decided, to give the concordia-class the tower
on the right side, so that this ship-class is a little more different from the ranger-class. That's it. :)

@Eder : So maybe this can even be a reason for you, not to fix your concordia-
class and save your time :)
 
Eh, I don't really like it, for one big reason: it's repeating a really really common mistake. You could have the best explanation and intentions in the world and everybody is still going to think that what really happened is that it was the same mistake everyone else makes and that you're just too lazy to fix it.

(I'm not *accusing* you of that, it's just what I see people thinking.)
 
I don't mind it much, simply because it allows us to differentiate between two classes of ship that are really the same thing :p
 
Now, now, Mike Kulas teaches us that if there's one thing FS2 is good at, it's rendering BIG CAPSHIPS!... so we should be able to tell the difference based on size. :)
 
You can tell a large difference if you place them side by side, I just can't think of a situation off the top of my head where your going to have that setup :). With the closest size reference 4000 meters off the bow(some escort), you might want something that will tell you instantly what type of carrier you're seeing (Although Lynx, Starman, Tolwyn and Lars have done a wonderful job of making the carriers look dissimilar, yet true to form).

C-ya
 
Mirroring

Yeah, I noticed the mirroring thing myself when I was fiddling with the Dralthi model from WCP. There really isn't anything wrong with the mirroring thing, technically, except that it does things differently than almost anything else. :) If it's a carry-over from the WC3/WC4 programming/art teams, then it makes a certain amount of sense, since 3D obviously wasn't as common back then, and you could expect the programmers/artists to choose some non-standard set of axis conventions. I just threw a -Z into the model loading code somewhere and moved on. Alternately, could have put it in the extractor...
 
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