a bit of a dilemma...

[Bob McDob]

There's no reference to an "artillery cruiser" in WCIVN. The Ajax/Agamemnon are a different design from the Tallahassee in WCIII/IV.

 

[Bandit LOAF]

Talahasse is NOT pre war design. It positioned as NEW artillery cruiser. See dialog Blair-Tolwin and Forstchen nowel

You're confusing three different ships.

The Tallahassee-class cruisers are the cruisers which appear 'in game' in Wing Commander III and Wing Commander IV. The TCS Ajax is a Tallahassee-class cruiser. Quote Heart of the Tiger: "Coventry, Sheffield, and Ajax, had joined the carrier at Tamayo as escorts, but two of them were as old and outdated as Victory herself. Only Coventry..." Thus, the Ajax - and thus the Tallahassee-class itself - date to at least 2634.

The ship referenced in The Price of Freedom is a hitherto unseen class of heavy cruisers - said to be the 'fleets heaviest cruisers'. The only two of these that exist are the TCS Achilles and the TCS Agamemnon. There's no indication that they're at all new ships - they're just newly introduced in the TPoF novelization. They do not appear in the game.

Finally, the only ship ever to be referred to as a 'Heavy Artillery Cruiser' is the Plunkett-class, which was introduced in Wing Commander Secret Ops. No backstory has been established about the Plunkett, so we have no idea how old or how new they are.

 

[Chevieblazer]

hmm, an unknown class of heavy cruiser...THAT got my attention.

point is i actually thought i'd use the "style" version of the concordia, close the forward launch bay and use it as a heavy cruiser

it's called the sun tzu class, is 630 meters long, has 3 heavy neutron turrets, fout torp launchers, 10 laser turrets and a complement of ~40 fighters and bombers. i thought of iut as a reverse of the begal idea. not a carrier with destroyer/cruiser firepower, but a cruiser with (for its class) high carrying ability.
here's a render:

 

[Bob McDob]

it's called the sun tzu class, is 630 meters long, has 3 heavy neutron turrets, fout torp launchers, 10 laser turrets and a complement of ~40 fighters and bombers. i thought of iut as a reverse of the begal idea. not a carrier with destroyer/cruiser firepower, but a cruiser with (for its class) high carrying ability.
here's a render:

Sounds like the Waterloo I don't much care for the design at present, in any case ... looks far too much like the Gettysburg and Bengal. There's only so many ways you can do "dart with wings" before it all stars looking the same. Maybe you could try to fuse some WCII into it, to create an intermediete stage (after all, the Waterloo was around in 2654).

 

[RAT]

Hm....
Whith thith weapon/fighter compliment its is a Waterloo class....
If increase weapon - we are take Gettisburg class, if increase fighter - take Bengal.
Real dilemma... BUT in wc1 era we are NOT have a cruiser! In this case i think it good cruiser fore wc1 era... but "Concordia" class.... I dont now...

 

[Bob McDob]

The Waterloo dates from at least SM2 (per Freedom Flight) ... as does the Gettysburg In any case, I'd be against having too many heavy cruiser designs in game. It doesn't make much sense either from a plotwise or gamewise standpoint.

 

[Chevieblazer]

well, the "dart with wings" is the general wc1 design idea.
as for wc2 designs, the freighter the wake island is based on will be in, can't tell about any others yet