well lets see, we both said the same damned thing, except for the fact that I said what has been discussed in this forum before. Look up my first thread ever "Whatever happened to the WC4 improvements" everyone on the board was like, well it didnt work on the vesuvius and that stuff has had 10 years to make it into confeds ships and everyone elses, so it isnt that effective anymore and isnt worth the cost of making them. I would assume they were damned expensive to create based on the tech needed for them and as you all know confed was cutting back on military spending, hence the Midway class's existence. Also the bug part of that could fit along, but what is so implausible about technology being instituted fleet wide and anotherone costing more than it is worth, in fact that is the way militaries work, what is created today, is ineffective tomorrow.