I have been reading a lot of old topics and it really seems we are all mostly some old school gamers. so my question to yall are what are some games that yall think are overrated and underrated. for a history of me as a gamer, my fav genres are first RPGs, then point and click adventure games, finally third person action/adventure games. of course I do like some fps and the such but they are not my first choice. whats funny is I dont really like simulator games (although wc has more of an arccade feel to it) yet I love wing commander, its my favorite franchise ever in gaming. so without further ado and in no particular order UNDERRATED the dig- this is a point and click game made by lucas arts, and it seems that this is a game where gamers either love it or hate it, nobody seems to be in the middle. well I love it. its a scfi game that was originally a movie concept by Steven Spielberg, but the technology was not there yet to make it, sol he passed it to george lucas who made it into a game. basic plot is three astronauts are transported to an alien planet and have to figure out how to get home. unlike other lucas arts adventure games this one is totally serious and lacks the humor of something like monkey island, or full throttle. Anyways its one of my favorite games. enslaved odyssey to the west- I played this game on the xbox 360, a couple of yrs ago and wow it has a good story, great voice acting and good gameplay. I believe this game was made by Andy Serkis of lord of the rings fame. This is a game much like, beyond good and evil, which could also be on this list as being underrated. enslaved just had no hype behind it. for anybody thats interested you can find it at gamespot for like 5 dollars. Skies of Arcadia- this is a Japanese turn based rpg, and my personal favorite rpg of all time. I played it on the sega dreamcast, which by the way is my favorite console of all time. The story was great, you played a good pirate that was trying to save a girl ( typical rpg story) but the characters were good the gameplay was challenging and you got to fly yes fly a pirate ship. in this game ship battles took place in the sky. It was a long game took me about 60 to 70 hrs to beat and I didnt do everything. Grandia 2- another japanese rpg for the dreamcast, once again good story and characters, my wife who is not much of a gamer (she likes guitar hero and rock band) played this game and beat it. thats how much she liked it. just a solid rpg The broken Sword series- there are five games in the series, and they are point and click adventure games, well 3 and 4 were 3d games that were made more for console gamers. anyways among adventure game fans, broken sword 1 is widely considered the best adventure game of all time, but to the gaming community at large, its barely known. If you like a good story with great characters mixed with history thrown in you will like broken sword. The plot of the first one in basic form goes like this, you play an american tourist in france named george, one day your at a cafe and a clown comes in and blows it up, you survive and want to figure out who he is and why he did it. Just and awesome game. OVERRATED Final fantasy series- I never got the hype behind these games, yes I enjoyed 7 but I dont think its the masterpiece everyone else does. The rest of the series has been avg to down right terrible to me. Gabriel Knight and the sins of fathers- This again is a point and click adventure game and is a lot of adventure gamers fav game of all time. its not a bad game at all has a good cast including tim curry, Mark hamil, Lea Remni sp (the wife in king of queens tv show), but the story does nothing for me, you play gabriel a book store owner who is trying to solve vodoo murders in New Orleans, this is one of those games where I understand why some like it, but I still think its way overrated Free Space 2- Never played it before I beat WC saga, but I enjoyed that game so much that I wanted to see the original, and it just did nothing for me. I thought the alien ships looked awful and the story had nothing on wing commander at all. It is a good engine with nice control scheme setup but the actual game did nothing for me. Grim Fandango - Another point and click game. now I do really like this game but some folks act like its the holy grail of adventure games and its just not to me, the 3d graphics look horrible and the control scheme is a mess, and while the story is good its nothing that I think about all the time, once again not a bad game just overrated. Mass Effect- once again I really like the series but I thought each game got a little worse. Mass effect 1 was my favorite, the choice system seemed to matter, there was actually a real villain that was interesting and had depth to his character. it was also the only game that offered a combat challenge. while there are parts I love about 2 and 3 I felt like the choices really didnt matter and it became a shooting gallery even on higher difficulties. Like I said I really enjoy the series but it is def overrated. those are some of mine what are yours??