Ranks in Wing Commander III (October 6, 2017)

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After learning the rank system for the Wing Commander movie, we decided to take a look back at the full motion video games. We were surprised to find that what we thought we knew wasn't accurate: as it turns out, the ranks used in Wing Commander III are different from those seen in the later games! The ranks in WC3 are harder to track because of the lower quality video, but a careful review can determine them for every character.

Wing Commander III is unique in that it included a comprehensive rank chart in the Victory Streak manual. But very few of the ranks included on the chart appear in the game. According to records from the set, six types of pins were purchased for the production and they were used to represent eight different ranks. Two services are represented, the Terran Confederation Navy (capital ship crewmen such as Tolwyn, Eisen and Rollins) and the Terran Confederation Space Force (Blair and his wingmen.) Navy ranks are inspired by the United States Navy, while Space Force ranks are based on those used by the Air Force. Both services uses the same insignias, with Navy ranks in silver and Space Force ranks in gold. Let's take a look…

Space Force

Second Lieutenant (O-1): The Space Force Second Lieutenant insignia is a rectangle followed by a square. Vagabond and Vaquero are both dressed as Second Lieutenants.





First Lieutenant (O-2): The Space Force First Lieutenant insignia is the reverse of the Second Lieutenant pin: a square followed by a rectangle. Flint is a First Lieutenants.





Captain (O-5): This rank does not appear on-screen.

Major (O-4): The Space Force Major insignia is two vertical squares. Maniac and Flash are both Majors, and Cobra incorrectly wears a Major's insignia (she is referred to as Lieutenant in both the manual and the game's cutscenes.)





Lieutenant Colonel (O-5): The Space Force Lieutenant Colonel is two wide, horizontal rectangles, with the smaller of the two at the bottom. Hobbes is the only Lieutenant Colonel seen in Wing Commander III.





Colonel (O-6): The Space Force Colonel insignia is the reverse of the Lieutenant Colonel badge. Blair and Angel both wear Colonel's insignias.






Brigadier General (O-7), Lieutenant General (O-8), Major General (O-9): These ranks do not appear on-screen.[/b]

General (O-10?): The Space Force General insignia is a gold square surrounded by smaller rectangles on every side. Paladin wears this insignia in Wing Commander III. Like the movie, the game does not seem to distinguish between flag ranks. According to the novelization, Taggart should be a Brigadier General (O-7.)





Navy

Ensign, Second Class (O-1) & Ensign (O-2): These ranks do not appear on-screen.

Second Lieutenant (O-3) or First Lieutenant (O-3): This unidentified Navy Lieutenant insignia is identical to the Space Forces Second Lieutenant pin, although it represents a different grade (O-3 rather than O-1.) Radio Rollins is a Navy Lieutenant. The version not represented is not visible in the game.





Lieutenant Commander (O-4) & Commander (O-5): These ranks do not appear on-screen.

Captain (O-6): The Navy Captain (equivalent in standing to Colonel Blair) is a solid silver rectangle. Captain Eisen wears this insignia.





Commodore (O-7), Rear Admiral (O-8) & Vice Admiral (O-9): These ranks do not appear on-screen.

Admiral (O-10): The Navy Admiral insignia is a silver version of the Space Force General rank. Tolwyn ears this insignia in Wing Commander III. It's not entirely clear what his specific flag rank should be; he is generally referred to as Admiral (O-10) in Wing Commander III-related material, though he is said to be wearing a Rear Admiral (O-8)'s uniform in the later Wing Commander IV novelization.

Space Marshal (O-11): This rank does not appear on-screen.





So what does THIS knowledge let you know? That Chris Roberts was also a Second Lieutenant in the Space Forces in Wing Commander III!




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Original update published on October 6, 2017
 
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Flint is a First Lieutenants.
Whoops?

Space Marshal (O-11): This rank does not appear on-screen.
Looking forward to the WC4 article.

That Chris Roberts was also a Second Lieutenant in the Space Forces in Wing Commander III!
At least he's consistent! And isn't so ostentatious as to claim a higher rank for himself (although in-universe it would make sense to avoid doing that because Blair should probably be aware of other high-ranking officers on his own ship).

I'm surprised I can't find much information on the ranks used in this current forum set-up (are there any?). I remember the older forums based ranks on the WC3 system which I thought was nice. I also remember the complaints about the ranking system encouraging useless posts for people to inflate their post counts which... wasn't so nice. (Maybe that's why we don't have them any more? I don't recall, it's been a long while.)

Anyway, while I'm no military enthusiast I do enjoy learning about the various ranks. With systems used in the pop culture of the Anglosphere tending to be predominantly US military-focused, I've had to learn for myself about some of the traditional ranks used in places like the British Royal Navy, like 'Master and Commander' and Post-Captain. All fascinating stuff.
 
Thanks for the catch on Lieutenants! Should be fixed in the source article now.

WC4 will be tomorrow and WCP will be a bit later (I got sidetracked trying to figure out the campaign ribbons!)

I believe the system the forums uses is here: https://www.wcnews.com/articles/ranks.shtml

We had previously put this together assuming that WC3, WC4 and WCP used the same system... but now it turns out there are some significant differences from game to game!
 
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I was thinking of the rank page listed in the forum software itself. I know there's a trophy page in the current set-up, but I didn't see any reference to ranking, which I recall seeing in earlier forums. Not a big deal.

It's been a while since I really looked at them... but if there are differences between the FMV-era games, that's interesting to find! I'll read the WC4 article now.
 
I was thinking of the rank page listed in the forum software itself. I know there's a trophy page in the current set-up, but I didn't see any reference to ranking, which I recall seeing in earlier forums. Not a big deal.

Spaceman 0
Veteran Spaceman 150
Petty Officer 300
Chief Petty Officer 750
Master Chief Petty Officer 1200
Ensign, 2nd Class 1500
Ensign 2000
2nd Lieutenant 3000
1st Lieutenant 4500
Lieutenant Commander 6000
Commander 7500
Captain 9000
Commodore 12,000
Rear Admiral 20,000
Vice Admiral 28,000
Admiral 36,000
Space Marshal 60,000
 
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