212 Squadron - "The Old Man's Eyes And Ears"
Maybe the two captains were related and the second one went out looking for trouble with whoever killed his relative.
But... you've repeatedly called people wrong... and stood up for other people who are calling people wrong... argue a point or concede it, but don't pick nits with Kris for deflating your "EVERYONE AGREES WITH ME" ego-fest.No offense, but the whole reason why any of us are arguing this point at all is because there is no right or wrong i.e. there has been no published timeline post-movie (the Confed handbook, if I can speculate correctly, makes no mention of anything similar to the game timeline) so we don't know for certain who is right and who is wrong. So don't go saying anybody is wrong with such certainty, Kris, because *you*, sir, have no jurisdiction whatsoever other than that which your inflated ego imposes on you.
That's kind of an idiotic statement... but for kicks, go back through this thread -- you'll find that quite a few people who aren't part of THE EVIL CIC STAFF disagree with you.As for majorities and minorities, outside the CIC staff, I think you will find that most sane Wing Commander fans would laugh hard at the attempts to slip the movie, and the Iason incident, into the game timeline continuity.
You're very confused -- who said that the man who wrote the book is in no place to write anything? He was contracted to write the handbook by WCP... and then they published it -- making it part of the WC Universe.What I don't understand is, LOAF, the movie-Iason incident is only chronicled in the Confed Handbook, and possibly the novel(? haven't read either). Then it has been pointed out that the author ofthat handbook said that everything in there was deliberately different from the game universe. *Then* you argue that the guy is in no place to make that claim. *But* you religiously (literally) follow his Iason incident story. I'm thinking, if this guy who has written this stuff is in no place to write anything, why don't you simply discredit that Iason story as apocrypha?
And you, Dougie, are "qualified" to say...?The only rational argument that wouldn't debunk all of your pro-movie theories would be to say that this guy isn't qualified to say that.
Well apparently that's what LOAF is saying, thta McCubbin is not qualified as setting things canon or not...Originally posted by Dougie
As for the Confed handbook guy. He was quoted earlier as saying "Everything in the Confed Handbook follows RELIGIOUSLY from the continuity of the MOVIE. However, that continuity is deliberately, extensively and consistantly DIFFERENT from the continuity of the games."
The only rational argument that wouldn't debunk all of your pro-movie theories would be to say that this guy isn't qualified to say that.
But I already claimed just that -- he is *not* in a position to decide whether or not his work is part of the Wing Commander Universe... any more than Chris Douglas could show up and claim that the Combined Forces logo he designed for WC3 should be ignored for some reason.The only rational argument that wouldn't debunk all of your pro-movie theories would be to say that this guy isn't qualified to say that.
I think that stupid water-kidney thread earlier has proved the folly of assuming that you can judge someones origin based on how well they write -- lots of countries have middle schools... (And if we get into the usual crap about how stupid Americans are because they don't think you're special I'll ban you all.)I'm....what age is middle school(at a guess 12-14?) (forgive the person who is not part of your 'proud' nation)?
But everyone in this thread is calling eachother right and wrong -- Kris is just one of those people. Deciding to pick on him for doing so *because* he's an admin is... stupid.I respect the administrators, thanks. However my point that they have no authority to judge what is right or wrong with regards to Wing Commander extends no further than any other fan.
No, you miss the point. He wasn't told, "Make sure you're accurate with the movie. Oh and by the way, It's not really part of the WCU, it just shares the name." He was probably told, "Write a book. You have a month."Originally posted by Dougie
You miss the point. Why would the author say this if he had not been instructed to write the book that way?
LOAF saying that something you did was stupid isn't insulting you. Me telling you you're an idiot is me insulting you. Can you see the difference?Please also drop the insults. Just as I'm about ready to drop it, someone comes along with a fresh attack. I don't feel I deserve it.